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The trauma of Switzerland's morality detentions

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11295538

This is a shocking story. However, I often find media stories on Swiss authoritarianism to be exagerated or demonstrably factually wrong.
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Old 14.09.2010, 13:05
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Re: The trauma of Switzerland's morality detentions

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This is a shocking story. However, I often find media stories on Swiss authoritarianism to be exagerated or demonstrably factually wrong.
Not exaggerated, as far as I have heard.. there's more as well... if you ever have time, and know some German, look for the term "Verdingbuben"
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Re: The trauma of Switzerland's morality detentions

I think this kind of thing was pretty standard practice right across Europe and the British Isles.

We've come a long way in the last 40 years, thank goodness.
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This is a shocking story. However, I often find media stories on Swiss authoritarianism to be exagerated or demonstrably factually wrong.

Hmmm... It was over 30 years ago...
Which parts/claims do you disagree with , and , given the extensive / pervasive establishmentarianism within Switzerland, why do you find it so hard to believe ?
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Re: The trauma of Switzerland's morality detentions

It did happen. The government apologised to the victims on Friday,

Bundesrätin Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf entschuldigte sich am 10. September 2010 anlässlich eines Gedenkanlasses
in Hindelbank im Namen des Bundes bei allen, die bis 1981 ohne Prozess weggesperrt wurden.


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_Versorgung

http://www.administrativ-versorgte.ch/
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Re: The trauma of Switzerland's morality detentions

I was just talking about this exact situation in Switzerland with my boss!! how strange.
we were talking about our country's dark secrets (Alberta, where I am from, had forced sterilization of 'unfit' persons), and he told me about the institutionalization of people considered mentally unfit for society.
It is shocking, but it happened all over the world.
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Re: The trauma of Switzerland's morality detentions

I don't dispute that it happened. Just, trying to guage the extent. Are the examples cited typical of what happened in many cases or are they selected as extreme examples to make the story more shocking.
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I don't dispute that it happened. Just, trying to guage the extent. Are the examples cited typical of what happened in many cases or are they selected as extreme examples to make the story more shocking.
While the practice of putting dissident people away most likely hasn't been a global phenomenon, social stigma has been and still is a very common thing in many parts around the world.

Prego girl with no father? She be a devil worshipper!
Baddy boy at school? He's on drugs!

Can't think of any other examples right now but it seems like it's mostly women who have been locked away no?
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Re: The trauma of Switzerland's morality detentions

Yes, these seem to be extremes, as reported maybe to draw attention or to make the "story" more shocking. But that doesn't make them less valid.

What about the more common occurrence of parents -- whose "troublesome" kid gets picked up by police for whatever in the night -- drunkeness, punkedness, noisiness, etc. and they decide to "teach them" a lesson by not paying bail money and leaving them in prison overnight or a couple of nights?

How is this different from sending kid to reform school or military school or convent? In all cases, it is against the minor's will. Whether they committed a crime or not. Parental rights ?

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Re: The trauma of Switzerland's morality detentions

This makes for very interesting reading!

We had borstal in the UK did we not... You've seen the film SCUM.

I think it's despicable all over the world
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Re: The trauma of Switzerland's morality detentions

The UK sent Dr Bernado's children to Australia, where they were poorly treated...
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