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10.04.2011, 21:38
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Agreed. make it lingua franca no prob, but not a national language
DB, now you are getting funnier - are you drinking Vaudois, Neuchatelois ou Valaisan?
Faltrad, DB is King of satire here - his own particular genrE. Of course he knows that English is just a bit of German dialects with some French thrown in, a few handfuls of words invented by Shakespeare, with silly latin rules. He is a clever chap.
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10.04.2011, 21:39
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| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | Given what the UK has to offer, I'll take the Porsche.
And the French.
English is for people too stupid to speak French.
Tom | | | | | Hey watch out DB will get another Napoleon out to quash that theory ! | 
10.04.2011, 21:39
| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: |  | | | DB, now you are getting funnier - are you drinking Vaudois, Neuchatelois ou Valaisan?  | | | | | After yesterday afternoon and evening... tea. | The following 3 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
10.04.2011, 21:42
| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | Given what the UK has to offer, I'll take the Porsche.
And the French.
English is for people too stupid to speak French.
Tom | | | | | But you're self-aware to notice that you're currently writing in English....right? And why are we (you) talking about the UK?
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10.04.2011, 21:46
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| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | Touché. No, seriously.
You're writing English right now. The Egyptians had the torch first, then the Greeks, Persians, Romans, Vandals, Ottomans, French (even). But the English language has it now. Come to terms with it or sit alone while humming along to A Hard Day's Night while not understanding it. | | | | | Indeed, but none of the langua franca listed above and the one you forgot ever made any difference to how people see their own language. Corean did not desappear nor was less dearly loved by its speakers, Vietnamese either, even if they all had to have Chinese as some point, and even use chinese caracters to write their own language. People's definition of national identity (and thus language) has no link whatsoever to lingua franca questions nor money nor anything else.
When poeple have to speak/write the lingua franca, they just becaues bilingual. It doesn't change a squid to their feelings about their national language.
If English speakers can't understand that there is lingua franca and national linguage totally disctinctely from one another because it happens to be the same for them, then bad luck, you are just not understanding what the rest of the world understand. In your own logic, that would make us superior I guess, but I do not follow class minded hierarchical mindset because I am not English, so I don't even get to the conclusion that your are inferior just because you are lingua franca native speakers. To me, you are just yourself, I do not believe in Übermenschen ( the correct understanding of this last word will show if the person answering my message is truely educated or not... take a second to google it).
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10.04.2011, 21:46
| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | All of which: - happened a very long time ago; and
- were provoked by the French.
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10.04.2011, 21:48
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| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | But you're self-aware to notice that you're currently writing in English....right? And why are we (you) talking about the UK? | | | | | Je parle aussi le francais (mais je n'ai pas les caracteres speciaux del clavier).
Tom
EDIT: I also speak French but I don't have the special characters on my keyboard
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10.04.2011, 21:48
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Ganja tea?
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10.04.2011, 21:48
| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | I do not believe in Übermenschen | | | | | But there are millions of English speakers you can see, hear and touch for yourself.
How can you not believe in them? | 
10.04.2011, 21:49
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| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: |  | | | Ganja tea? | | | | | I think DB only drinks ENGLISH tea ! | This user would like to thank Cosmicgirl for this useful post: | | 
10.04.2011, 21:51
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| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: |  | | | All of which: - happened a very long time ago; and
- were provoked by the French.
| | | | | The French attacked Fort Sumter?
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10.04.2011, 21:52
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| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | The clerk at my local post office , cashier at the supermarket and many other people in shops speak to me in perfect English and actually enjoy to do so. However working in banking here I can quite clearly inform you in many areas the English is poor or simply non existent! 
It would be interesting if all the expats left the financial insitutions together with their English language in tow and let the financial centres in Zurich and Geneva get on with trading with the rest of the world with their 4 languages and limited English speakers.
Just a thought ...............
I feel truly blessed to be a mother tongue English speaker.
God bless the Queen and our motherland! | | | | | I am astonished. Bankers usually pose as being knowing everything. So that I presume that what you experience and describe is not a linguistic problem but simply the usual arrogance of banking people. Are you possibly just a member of that crowd   | 
10.04.2011, 21:52
| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | The French attacked Fort Sumter? | | | | | Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard sounds pretty French to me. | 
10.04.2011, 21:54
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| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: |  | | | How can you not believe in them?  | | | | | Asking the question proves that you did not read Nietzsche recently. Get back to your study, DB, instead of speading blunt irony on forums ( Ich habe dich hier mal feinsinniger erlebt... how do you say that in English... I have seen you more subtle or something like that).
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10.04.2011, 21:56
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Don't ask too much- he's got a headache, poor thing.
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10.04.2011, 21:58
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| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | I do not believe in Übermenschen | | | | | | Quote: |  | | | But there are millions of English speakers you can see, hear and touch for yourself.
How can you not believe in them?  | | | | | The only Übermensch I believe in is this guy: | 
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I like French fries but I am a true Anglophone...
Are these 2 oxymorons?  because I am ready to give up those French fries, they taste bitter and anti-anglo anyways | 
10.04.2011, 22:00
| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | The only Übermensch I believe in is this guy:  | | | | | What language does he speak, then?
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10.04.2011, 22:01
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| | Re: English as an official Swiss language | Quote: | |  | | | Right on DB............we needed you earlier but guess you where waiting at the finish line ! Bless you ! | | | | | Have some compassion with our poor DB ! He is making a living out of teaching some Central Swiss (Swiss Congolese) some basic English  and at times may feel like Messrs Stanley and Livingstone ("Dr Livingstone I presume") |
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