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I just love that term : Anglo-Saxons- it always goes down so well with BNP and EDL lovers.
I've heard of the first - it's a bank, I think - but I've never heard of the second one.

Is it also a bank?
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Old 10.04.2011, 22:21
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No, you are wrong.

English is a blatant mix of German and French, if YOU can't see it , you really don't understand much of language.

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First of all: relax. There's no need to become personal and aggressive. Use your words, such as they are.

English comes from other languages as do all languages. These things are necessarily evolutionary. But it isn't a mix. Clearly.
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No, you are wrong.

English is a blatant mix of German and French, if YOU can't see it , you really don't understand much of language.

Tom
Actually he's right. English is not "a mix of German and French", any more than a human being is a mix of a chimpanzee and a gorilla.

English shares a common root with modern German (and Dutch, and Frisian, and Norwegian, and all the others), and has received substantial input of vocabulary from an early form of French, but that doesn't make it in any way a mix of the two languages.

Anyway, enough about facts. Where were we?

Oh yes, nobody wanting to speak French any more...
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But unfortunately, we're discussing for fun. The fight has been won, and it's English who's running about the ring with his hands in the air.
I agree with #1, but as for #2... you should tell the Swiss, because they don't know about your victory. Good luck when talking to them.

Strange thing: I only can speak for French-German-Romansh and not Italian, sorry for that, but the only one who are as friendly as ever independently of the language you speak with them are the Romansh. Well, not if you just bought their grand parents house for a price they can't afford, but that's kind of human in that case
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Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard sounds pretty French to me.
Not really. General Beauregard





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But I don't call them inferior, I call them cousins. Now read this thread again and tell me if that is the attitude of the Anglophones here.

It's really a good thing I know other Anglophones in real life, otherwise, this forum would make me far more anglophobe than the worse French village ever could.
Faltrad, you must admit, Anglophones are very funny now I like Debbouze and El-maleh too
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His father was born in Normandy.

So he can be considered to be English, really.

I know. Deep down you are all called Helmut
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I've heard of the first - it's a bank, I think - but I've never heard of the second one.

Is it also a bank?
Its probably a big house in Hanover
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Faltrad, you must admit, Anglophones are very funny now I like Debbouze and El-maleh too
Many people are funny when you speak the language well enough to understand their language REALLY, not like english tourists buying a house in France (You asked for that one, it's purely rethorics, put you are all playing blashing here, so why not play along...)
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I agree with #1, but as for #2... you should tell the Swiss, because they don't know about your victory. Good luck when talking to them.

Strange thing: I only can speak for French-German-Romansh and not Italian, sorry for that, but the only one who are as friendly as ever independently of the language you speak with them are the Romansh. Well, not if you just bought their grand parents house for a price they can't afford, but that's kind of human in that case
Look, reality is, I don't think English should be an official language in Switzerland, but it should be pseudo official - the various branches of government should produce their literature and forms in English as well. It wouldn't cost a huge amount and would help both them, and almost all the immigrants here.
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Look, reality is, I don't think English should be an official language in Switzerland, but it should be pseudo official - the various branches of government should produce their literature and forms in English as well. It wouldn't cost a huge amount and would help both them, and almost all the immigrants here.
I have no opinion about it because I don't need it and my Stadtteil puts info in other languages when it is useful and makes sense to do so. Sometimes, English is in the lot, other times it is not. Depends the message and the addressee... kind of make sense. They should just keep doing that and basta (dear Italian cousins, thank you for this wonderful word I loan for the occasion).
Funny enough, in Scuol, they are making a point of not using German for public information display anymore but Romansh and get the useful translation in small beneath in German and sometimes English. See, the Swiss don't hate English expats, they treat Swiss German people the same way in Scuol. Total equality.
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His father was born in Normandy.

So he can be considered to be English, really.
Continental Normandie, which means Normandie except the Channel Islands, got integrated into France, so that YOU by that logic are to be considered to be a FRENCH
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My father's house is very grand and has a wonderful garden. There is a brown dresser in the kitchen and a wonderful commode in the hall. My brother likes to write stories about the hounds and the beasts that lived there.

Can't be bothered to count, but there are many words there which come directly from French or German. But you need to know French and German to pick them out easily.

Irrelevant btw- whatever happens, English has no reason to become a Swiss national language.
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Faltrad, you must admit, Anglophones are very funny now I like Debbouze and El-maleh too
You got it right ... thats why the Swiss people love to contribute to this forum not only to use our English language but to enjoy a fabulous humour........
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And a GERMANIC languag?
English of course, by structure and by basics IS a Germanic language
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Yes, but Odile - are you going to tell us what an EDL is?
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Continental Normandie, which means Normandie except the Channel Islands, got integrated into France, so that YOU by that logic are to be considered to be a FRENCH
Vikings rather - both Harold and William were NOT French NOR British, but Viking cousins. Remember the Danelaw? Huge numbers of words and especially geographical terms, villages, etc, still are Danish in the Central to North East England. Like all words with -by at the end. And of course all the Thorpes (daughter/Tochter in German- secondary settlements).
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Look, reality is, I don't think English should be an official language in Switzerland, but it should be pseudo official - the various branches of government should produce their literature and forms in English as well. It wouldn't cost a huge amount and would help both them, and almost all the immigrants here.
If you are just talking (not legally binding) "customer service" on the federal level, then you are probably right.

Beyond that, the costs would be huge actually. As I said before, if you'd want that to make a real difference every single service of every single village would have to hire native English speakers.

But as we just established, the government could mix German and French texts. That should do it.....
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I've heard of the first - it's a bank, I think - but I've never heard of the second one.

Is it also a bank?
Let's hope it is not a gene bank
EDL English Defence League, a lovely bunch.
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Yes, but Odile - are you going to tell us what an EDL is?
They're Daily Mail Readers who tend to take themselves awfully seriously.
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English of course, by structure and by basics IS a Germanic language
And so is German Wolli. What's your point?
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First of all: relax. There's no need to become personal and aggressive. Use your words, such as they are.

English comes from other languages as do all languages. These things are necessarily evolutionary. But it isn't a mix. Clearly.

What is bad about a mix ??? Even a well established language PROFITS from "mixing in " add-ons from other languages
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