or worse... see during the week crime rate droped dramatically

Close, but no cigar. And no, it wasn't Ghandi either (even though he was pretty keen on getting the Brits out)

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but don't you really get it after 25 pages!!!

The law is right and i have no objection for hard measures against criminals, the way this initiative was put in place is wrong, the main target it's not only applying the law, it's a series of discriminative measures against foreigners for some reason, SVP injects hate into Swiss citizens by announcing false facts....got it now??

Use your common sense as a human being rather than just following what you been told

Aside from my sarky comment above, googling this refers the frist 2 dozen links to *one* story about a guy called Ezeiquiel Lopez.

On reading it, "Representative David Price, a North Carolina Democrat". Who? And?

Were you alluding to Obama perchance?

Yes, but the sentencing won't be...

Swiss: case-by-case sentencing based on the situation.

Foreign: pack your bags!

Sorry, my friend. I see the glass half full and you see the glass half empty. I understand how foreigners can see this as a jab against them but, if this initiative were carried out only against criminals, wouldn't it make everyone's life that much more safe?

As pointed out, people against these initiative are not pro-criminal, I guess most of us foreigners dislike criminals. The issue is the trend...

Honestly I don't feel very welcome here anymore

maybe Swiss misplaced hospitality with hostility...?

What I was alluding to is that this issue is not restricted to Switzerland alone.

Edit: Oh, correct by the way, have a biscuit.

I believe the correct word here should be manipulative. They know exactly what they're doing. Railing on about criminals while being drunk drivers and going on about foreign workers lowering salaries when their profits in fact rely on employing a large percentage of such workforce.

I have asked this question before: how has this initiative affected your life directly? Have you felt any consequences?

The mass hysteria and rheotoric boggles my mind.

From the initiative text (in german): " Die Volksinitiative will Ausländerinnen und Ausländern automatisch das Aufenthaltsrecht entziehen, wenn sie bestimmte Straftaten begangen oder missbräuchlich Sozialleistungen bezogen haben"

Did you spot the word "automatic" before you voted YES?

If the laws were not clear and we were talking about things that you do not know unless you grew up here, then I would feel it was wrong. But we are talking about laws that you can choose not to break, you enter this country knowing that those are the rules.

Again, all this is not your problem if you are a law-abiding citizen. The ideological debate that will be held ad nauseam is pretty pointless because that is not going to change a thing. And if you start telling the Swiss Joe Bloggs that he should not have the right to vote a certain way or that the EU will come down on us like a tonne of bricks, it will only push him further into the SVP corner, because all of these votes against foreign things are going in the same direction of reacting against what is perceived as being negatively affected by outward influences.

Against criminals....a huge YES, i will feel much more safer and confident it's all for the Swiss citizens and my own (as a foreigner) benefits and security, but now i feel Swiss citizens are feeling safer (with more hate against foreigners deep inside), while me (being on the same class as the acclaimed bad guys) feeling unsecured and much offended.

Hope this explains it all and no hard feelings.

An excellent point. Well written.

Did you spot the word"bestimmte" befor????

As for this specific initiative, people are deported here and elsewhere due to having a criminal record without citizenship. It's the AUTOMATIC part that is scary. Even in Canada right now, our right-wing govt is trying to score points by deporting a man who was born in Canada and lived there all his life to India as a result of criminal convictions. To me, that is just wrong. He is Canadian, not Indian. People born in Canada are automatically citizens. Except in his weird case, this may not apply, as his parents were in the employ of the Indian embassy at the time. His parents have since got citizenship, but no one ever thought he had to apply. The fact that the govt is pushing for his expulsion to score political points in their right-wing base shows that things should never be automatic. The specific situation should always be considered for such serious action.

It all boils down to perception. I hope this feeling will soon subside and you can go back to feeling welcomed and accepted again.

Just out of interest, if the same question came up in your country of origin and you had the opportunity to vote on it, which way would you vote?

The article goes on to quote the Federal Migration Commission to claim that each case will have to be judged individually. That may be wishful thinking on their part - and I am not aware of this Commissioon having any decision-making authority.
The key part seems to be this statement

Except that not everyone entered the country, but were born here.

So why don't these people apply for Swiss citizenship. Is it becase of the compulsory army duty?