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Strassenvekehrsamt for everything....simple as that - they are the driver and vehicle licencing authority.

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Re: Fact Sheet #1 - Car Registration and Number Plates

Hello guys,

I'm new on this forum, so maybe the topic was already discussed before, but please help with this information: I'm here with my foreign plates car - which I don't want to change for Swiss plates, since I'm planning to go back home in approx 6 months; end of June I will be already since one year in Switzerland, so still about 3 more months to go ont he top of the one year; what I've heard is that B-permit foreigners are allowed to keep their foreign plates car only for 1 year.
Is this so? If police stops you and the year expired, how much the fine would be? Are we talking only about fines or also about other more severe measures?

Thanks a lot for the help!
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Re: Fact Sheet #1 - Car Registration and Number Plates


Hi everyone,

I have a slightly different take on the questions asked in this tread,

I have a car here in Switzerland on Swiss plates, I will shortly be leaving Switzerland to live in Sweden for 12 months before relocating permanently to Finland.

Can I maintain my Swiss insurance without an address here in Switzerland?
And if not can I officially leave Switzerland if I still maintain an address here for "Postal" purposes? I would want to officially leave Switzerland ASAP so I can stop paying my medical insurance

Thanks for any help
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Re: Fact Sheet #1 - Car Registration and Number Plates

Hi,
Just a bit of a quick introduction. I am an Australian uni student, and will be spending just shy of 3 months in Switzerland (Luzern Area) from the end of June. I am planning on doing a fair bt of travel around the continent and am looking at my options re: buying a car. From a quick flick through this one and the used cars thread, it seems that without a residents permit it is near on impossible to register a car.

Are there any options as to getting a car registered in Switzerland? or am i better buying in France, where i can get a car that is already registered with a fresh grey card (6 months validity?), that i can sell after my 3 months without having to change the name in which it is registered.

I have also looked at long term leasing which seems a little more legit, albeit at a price of around $AUD3000, which is a little beyond what i have intended.

I have looked at trains, and this seems dam cheap, but i would like a car as i have been without in oz for the past 6 months and am missing driving a little.

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I imagine, that after having found the right car, agreed on the price, and transferred the money to the seller, I go there to pick up my car with my license plates under my arm? Or is that totally erroneous?
I am curious about the answer to this question.
In other words, is it possible to get a license plate even before finding the car to buy?
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Re: Car registration in Zurich

I just went through this in Vaud and here are the steps (there may of course be differences in Zurich).

1. After deciding on the car, contact the insurance company and set up the insurance. In Vaud, the insurance document is transmitted electronically by the Insurance company to the Office where the car is registered. The insurance company will tell you the process in Zurich and how long you need to allow to be sure the insurance is there when you arrive to register the car.

2. Take your passport, residence permit and the car regostration document (a gray form). The former owner will have taken this and had their ownership of the vehicle cancelled. Of course, you can do this together if the seller is willing to come at the same time. But the point is you cannot drive the car once the owner has handed in the plates and had the regostration cancelled.

3. if you are not with the seller, take a signed bill of sale. They asked me for this and made a copy of it.

4. I did not need a statement from the commune where I live

5. Take your driver's license

6. Process took me about an hour and cost CHF 380. CHF 60 for the plates which were handed over to me there and then, CHF 50 for the registration document and CHF 275 approx for the registration for a 1.6 liter engine car for half a year. I understand this varies according to size and power of the car.

7. You my need to get the car inspected depending on the age and whether or not it was done by the seller.

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I just went through this in Vaud and here are the steps (there may of course be differences in Zurich).

1. After deciding on the car, contact the insurance company and set up the insurance. In Vaud, the insurance document is transmitted electronically by the Insurance company to the Office where the car is registered.
I'll be located in Vaud but the car will most probably be at a dealer in another canton. How is the insurance be set up, by chassis/engine no?
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2. Take your passport, residence permit and the car registration document (a gray form). The former owner will have taken this and had their ownership of the vehicle cancelled. Of course, you can do this together if the seller is willing to come at the same time. But the point is you cannot drive the car once the owner has handed in the plates and had the registration cancelled.
Is the car registration form arranged in the name of the owner? If so, will the dealer/previous owner be responsible of preparing this for the new owner?
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3. if you are not with the seller, take a signed bill of sale. They asked me for this and made a copy of it.
Is there a specific format/name for this bill?
And finally the question above remains: Is it possible to get a license plate even before finding the car to buy?
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And finally the question above remains: Is it possible to get a license plate even before finding the car to buy?
No, it is not.
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Re: Fact Sheet #1 - Car Registration and Number Plates

In answer to your questions:

1. "I'll be located in Vaud but the car will most probably be at a dealer in another canton. How is the insurance be set up, by chassis/engine no?"

I used Vaudoise Insurance but had 3 separate quotes. The insurer needs a copy of the grey registration document that you get from the current owner (or garage). It provides the chassis number and other details like engine size, horsepower, etc. Interestingly, it was no more expensive for me to insure additional drivers as long as I was the person mainly driving the car and the others were not very young drivers.

2."Is the car registration form arranged in the name of the owner? If so, will the dealer/previous owner be responsible of preparing this for the new owner?

Yes it is. The new registration form is delivered to you at the Service des Autos where you go to register the vehicle and get the new plates. First the old registration document is cancelled and then a new one is issued. It will be easier and faster if the person selling the car is with you at the time this is done. I did it in 2 steps but it wastes time and there is also the disadvantage that once the old registration is cancelled, the car cannot be driven because there are no plates.

3. "Is there a specific format/name for this bill?
And finally the question above remains: Is it possible to get a license plate even before finding the car to buy?

There is no specific format for the bill of sale. I used a generic one that I printed out from the internet listing the key facts from the grey registration document (Car type, engine size, old plate #, chassis #, name and address of former owner), the price and the name and address of the purchaser.

Finally, it is not possible to register a car that you have not bought.
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Old 22.07.2008, 21:38
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This is the first in a series of Fact Sheet Posts I am starting. They are by no means complete, and all members are encouraged to add, correct or update the post.

Fact Sheet #1 CAR REGISTRATION AND NUMBER PLATES

*Vehicle Registration and Driver Licencing is the responsibility of the respective Cantonal Traffic Authority (Strassenverkehrsamt or STVA).

*Registered vehicles require 5 components to be driven on the street:
  • A valid Registration certificate issued by the STVA (Fahrzeugausweis)
  • A valid insurance policy obtained from an Insurance Company (Versicherungsnachwies)
  • A set of number plates issued by the STVA
  • Current roadworthiness (MFK - Renewable at invitation of the STVA)
  • Current emission control (Abgas Prfung - renewable every 2 years)
Note that if you "change" anything on the car, then you need additional documentation and endorsement in the registration. This can happen, e.g. if you buy a set of winter tyres on rims that are not original manufacturer. The rims are then not "original". So you have to visit the road-transport-authority and "convince" them that the rims you bought are equivalent to the original. You guessed it: there is a fee!
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Re: Fact Sheet #1 - Car Registration and Number Plates

All the mods I made (wheels, exhaust) came with paperwork from the manufacturer - so as Goldtop is hinting, make sure you get them or you'll have issues with an MFK.

I was asked for exhaust paperwork on an MFK in Zurich.
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All the mods I made (wheels, exhaust) came with paperwork from the manufacturer - so as Goldtop is hinting, make sure you get them or you'll have issues with an MFK.

I was asked for exhaust paperwork on an MFK in Zurich.
Cannot wait till the MFK (inspection every 2 or 3 years) to report and register mods. Owner must immediately, after refitting, go to the StVA (road traffic authority) to have the mods accepted and recorded into the registration document.

Otherwise there can be penalties if the police do random roadside checks. Anecdotes say that the ZH police are tolerant, but a fancy car with ZH plates may be pulled up in other cantons.

Serious hassles with unregistered mods can occur if the car is involved in an accident. The police will put it under the microscope and the insurer will try to wriggle out of liability because of the unauthorized changes.
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Re: Fact Sheet #1 - Car Registration and Number Plates

I just changed cars. The new one is a roadster and doesn't have an abgas sticker but it is stamped in the service logbook of the car.

Is this OK?

Also although my insurance is sorted I just realised that I left my green card(paper) in the old car. Should I ask for a new one or is the vehicle registration document proof enough?

Note for anyone who wants to change insurance when you change car: You need to do it before you register the new car in order to get a refund. You can do it up to 2 weeks after registration but you won't get a refund.

The car has non standard alloys that are included on the registration doc but I have no paperwork for the winter wheels! How long does it take to get the winter rims approved and can you do this without the wheels being on the car?

I took it for a burn through the alps the day I got it and have to say it's as much fun as you can have in a car in Switzerland.

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Also although my insurance is sorted I just realised that I left my green card(paper) in the old car. Should I ask for a new one or is the vehicle registration document proof enough?
The green document has lost its former significance, if you are driving within Switzerland and surrounding EU countries. You probably do not need it anywhere in the EU. The document is free. So why not ask your insurer for one. Sometimes the insurer prints on the back, the addresses of their offices or partners in other countries. Could be useful if you have an accident outside CH.
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Re: Fact Sheet #1 - Car Registration and Number Plates

Yesterday I bought a nearly new scooter off a fellow foreigner. The scooter is now in my garage (off the road) but he left the plates on there and kept the grey registration document.

He asked me whether I was happy to stick with his insurance company, Allianz. I said I was so he made a call to his broker and she told him that she would take care of everything (registration in my name, insurance etc..) and apparently the current owner's plates would be transferred to my name. He said I could pay him the difference (20 - 40CHF) for the plates.

Is this the correct way of doing things?

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Yesterday I bought a nearly new scooter off a fellow foreigner.....
Yes, that's fine, insurance reps often do this. You will get a new grey document shortly.
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Yesterday I bought a nearly new scooter off a fellow foreigner. The scooter is now in my garage (off the road) but he left the plates on there and kept the grey registration document.

He asked me whether I was happy to stick with his insurance company, Allianz. I said I was so he made a call to his broker and she told him that she would take care of everything (registration in my name, insurance etc..) and apparently the current owner's plates would be transferred to my name. He said I could pay him the difference (20 - 40CHF) for the plates.

Is this the correct way of doing things?

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Unusual but acceptable! The seller is trusting you. The insurance rep will ensure that the formalities are processed correctly.
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Thanks for your replies. The bit that confused me was the transfer of the seller's plate over to my name, I didn't know you could do that.
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Re: Fact Sheet #1 - Car Registration and Number Plates

Just a little update. I've received the Allianz contract in the post and have been asked to sign and return. Luckily I spotted deep down in there that I'd be signing up until 01.01.2014. I also see that they didn't include my wife in the quote even though I asked for her to be added. Finally I specified I wanted a French contract (English not avail) and they sent it in German.

All this doesn't bode well. Can I just walk away, even though the insurance agent did the transfer of registration paperwork and it states Allianz on the scooter registration documents?

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Just a little update. I've received the Allianz contract in the post and have been asked to sign and return. Luckily I spotted deep down in there that I'd be signing up until 01.01.2014. I also see that they didn't include my wife in the quote even though I asked for her to be added. Finally I specified I wanted a French contract (English not avail) and they sent it in German.

All this doesn't bode well. Can I just walk away, even though the insurance agent did the transfer of registration paperwork and it states Allianz on the scooter registration documents?

Do this in parallel:
1. Phone the Allianz agent and tell her you want all the documents corrected within 24 hours.
2. Get competitive quotes. You may find a lower premium and better service elsewhere.
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