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Yes, I'd be pleased with a total ban 7 8.24%
No, a total ban would be unreasonable 72 84.71%
I'd be pleased with a total ban on totally banning eating of food and drinking of beverages 6 7.06%
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Is this forum Englishban.ch? Everyone is obsessed with bans.
We are talking about die Bahn, correct?

I would support removing the seat-side bins, especially on the s-bahns. The seat-side bins are always overflowing with PET bottles, etc.

Then the Rail Clean personnel could spend more time picking up the free newspapers and cleaning up the spilled beverages on the floor.
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Old 05.02.2011, 19:03
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

A crude poll has been added.
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

A bit too crude really - re-read please!
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

What about colouring your hair on the train then?? I have mentioned before the time when I witnessed someone dying their hair next to me.
The smell of the dye was eye watering
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Old 05.02.2011, 19:06
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

...but the poll is somehow incomplete without option "agnostic"
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Old 05.02.2011, 19:12
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

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Is this forum Englishban.ch? Everyone is obsessed with bans.
Exactly, everyone should just lighten up. What we need is to put a stop to all these bans, there are far too many. We need something like a ban against all further bans, I think.

Can we have another poll option, "I'd be pleased with a total ban on totally banning eating of food and drinking of beverages" ?
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Old 05.02.2011, 19:16
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

Don't ban eating but fine littering.
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Exactly, everyone should just lighten up. What we need is to put a stop to all these bans, there are far too many. We need something like a ban against all further bans, I think.

Can we have another poll option, "I'd be pleased with a total ban on totally banning eating of food and drinking of beverages" ?

As said above - I am not a 'let's ban it all' fan. As usual a few spoil it for all. If only people had a bit more respect for others - and a bit more common sense. Very pungent and messy food is very different to your average cheese sandwich- and of course, clearing up should come as standard. If people did - a ban would not even be considered.
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As said above - I am not a 'let's ban it all' fan. As usual a few spoil it for all. If only people had a bit more respect for others - and a bit more common sense. Very pungent and messy food is very different to your average cheese sandwich- and of course, clearing up should come as standard. If people did - a ban would not even be considered.
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Old 05.02.2011, 19:46
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Blimey, what a rant. Feel better now? Must say I don't like all this 'ban this, ban that' but ... last time we travelled by train, a couple sat next to us and started eating a chinese take-away. I love chinese food - and we were starving- but it was just unpleasant. They left all the mess when they left the train, and yes, we were furious. Common sense and a bit of respect - and perhaps we would be less inclined to ask for bans.
I have to admit ,I have a bad habit .I call on those people and tell em "He you ,You forgot some thing " and then I get the finger But it still makes me feel God I mean good
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As stated, it isn't practical to ban eating on the train. They *should* take away the rubbish bins and impart a "pack-in, pack-out" mentality.
I think practicality should be out of the question, since, I don't know about you guys but I pretty much sqeeze my daily food into my train commutes, since that's the most peaceful times one gets. And ton of my colleagues, too, kids we teach, etc etc. It's not a question of practicality, but why do we need laws and bans for simple common sense things. Just tell the next animal pigging out on the train and not cleaning up after themselves. So what, you get a finger. You can call up a ticket conductor, report them to the platform folks when the train stops. Etc. Or just take the garbage, put it in their pockets when they are on their way out, if one speaks loud and clear, they hate the attention and usually just clean up, I did it once, it worked.

What irks me equally much are really nice and polite folks, who actually have their messy boots on the seats and then politely remove them for you, when you need a seat. Gross. Like, the furnishing is there for their shoepolising needs.

I was on Prague metro once where teens where trashing the carriage with their McDo disposable mess. One guy turns and asks them repeatedly if they would pick it up. Then he just grabs them with a friend, pulls them towards the door and says they are undercover cops off duty who don't like to see our trains getting trashed. The kids were taken to the station to spend a couple of hours waiting for their parents to pick them up, with a couple of hours community service the next day.

I think if this was not treated as unimportant here, and instead of investing into Rail people cleaning, going after the messy (and sometimes agreessive) passangers, things would calm down. Most of the abuse I have witnessed here was either on a train, on platform, etc. I have seen some rail cops in duty a couple of times on the train here past few years, but they seem to be just checking the immigrants, etc. not concerned about civility of passangers.
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

Hey, what about posters with piggy characters all over the trains...seems to work wonders here... Plus some text along the lines: all these foreigners came here to dispose their garbage in our trains...are you one of them?
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

Not too long ago, I saw a ticket controller on the ZVV S-Bahn S5 stating the rules to someone onboard - feet on the seat in front is ok only when with clean socks or on a newspaper sheet, never without anything and promptly ticked off the youngster ( who had removed both his boots and socks and placed both his feet on the seat without anything in between ).
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

I am happy if people are eating. That might mean fewer people talking (shouting) on their phones if they are busy eating.
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

I think its a bit unreasonable for banning eating food, but yeah there could be friendly reminders at the train stations and commuters have the possibility to voice out their concerns. Coz i have done it a couple of time and have been respected as well, not always, but then its not a perfect world anyways. All we can do is give it out best shot.
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

worst experience in the 18.14 fully packed Geneva-Neuchâtel-Biel train:

- one guy grabbing a brie-sandwich that spent all day in his bag. The whole wagon was smelling like a trash bin.

- one guy removed his shoes just to let his fetid socks get some air. I managed to survive by moving to next wagon.

In both cases people complained, but the guys ignored and asked people to just move to another place.
Big question is how do you implement such a ban? Train controllers are already complaining from (some) passenger aggresivity; enforcing such bans will lead to more confrontation and violence. If someone is not civilized enough to bring such smelly things on train how do you make them understand and respect the ban?
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Big question is how do you implement such a ban? Train controllers are already complaining from (some) passenger aggresivity; enforcing such bans will lead to more confrontation and violence. If someone is not civilized enough to bring such smelly things on train how do you make them understand and respect the ban?
Shoot 'em on sight, naturally.
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

Banning is a copout. Instead of helping all understand what it means being civilized, having the community follow up on it, I am skeptical. Btw, I don't get the food ban in schools (unless in cafeteria and teacher's lounge), either. Like, students older than 20 aren't expected to clean up afterthemselves, and profs? But back to trains. Besides those who don't clean up in trains, why do some trains reek...?
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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

Bans are silly and I voted for a total ban of further bans.

I travel a bit for work, and trains really are a microcosm of Swiss society. This is a great example of how these things are handled in Switzerland: the cold unflinching Swiss stare, mouth cemented in a straight line of obvious disapproval, the general air of the classic busybody with nothing better to do but put their nose in other people's business. I have rarely seen it fail to work on even the brashest of young louts eg Swiss gangsta wannabes in terms of feet on seats, trash, etc....

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Re: Should they ban eating on trains?

I think that a ban on food consumptions on trains is completely impractical.

It would be helpful to have more facilities for the disposal of waste, particularly plastic bottles and newspapers, at stations. It is infuriating to find the small bins crammed full because of a couple of plastic bottles or the like.
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