Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Transportation/driving  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 15.02.2011, 20:09
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ticino
Posts: 3,050
Groaned at 96 Times in 67 Posts
Thanked 4,022 Times in 1,595 Posts
Snoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Even if you do your driving license in Switzerland you need to do the two day course after you have passed your test. So it's on top of what you pay for lessons anyway.

But, just a tip, TCS members get a considerable discount if they do the course with the TCS.

French: http://www.tcs.ch/main/fr/home/kurse...usbildung.html

German: http://www.tcs.ch/main/de/home/kurse...usbildung.html
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 15.02.2011, 20:36
yasmina
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

I find this page to be quite helpful, if anyone else is looking for more information:

http://geneva.angloinfo.com/informat.../exlicence.asp

It does state that....

"Any person holding a compliant driving licence issued before December 2005 will receive their Swiss licence within two weeks of submitting the application. It is valid for life.
Any person holding a compliant driving licence issued after December 2005 will be given a temporary driving licence valid for three years. During this period they must attend two one-day training courses at an authorised private test centre. Once the person has completed the additional driving courses they will receive their full driving licence."

Can anybody give more information on this temporary license?
Could I, for example, drive to France with it?
Am I able to drive independantly or would a need someone with a license for 3 years to accompany me at all times until I completed the course?
Are there any benifits to get it over and done with as soon as possible?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #23  
Old 15.02.2011, 20:44
mabern's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: V.South West of Zurich
Posts: 1,193
Groaned at 7 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 417 Times in 285 Posts
mabern has an excellent reputationmabern has an excellent reputationmabern has an excellent reputationmabern has an excellent reputation
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

You can drive anywhere with it and independently, but sometime in the three years you must do the course, unless you leave Switzerland first, then you wont need to do it of course!
It does cause a bit of confusion but is not evident in other countries that it is "provisional" as in most countries you need to renew a license at intervals anyway... to prove you are not yet senile at ninety for example...or that you still have good reflexes and vision etc.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank mabern for this useful post:
  #24  
Old 16.02.2011, 22:56
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wallisellen
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
jras2636 has no particular reputation at present
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Did the rules change again in 2010? I got my full Uk licence converted to swiss last May and from the looks of it the licence is not provisional. There is no mention of expiry date (ablaufdatum).
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 16.02.2011, 23:41
wattsli1's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Basel Land
Posts: 730
Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 943 Times in 338 Posts
wattsli1 has a reputation beyond reputewattsli1 has a reputation beyond reputewattsli1 has a reputation beyond reputewattsli1 has a reputation beyond reputewattsli1 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Just one further thing to add to this about the 2 days of courses... I currently have my 3 year license - I did my test here so I'm not converting from something else, but as mentioned it's the same situation if you passed recently in another country.

I have done my 2 days of courses already but you have to actually wait for the 3 years to expire before you can exchange it for the permanent one. It's not like you do the courses and then automatically get a permanent license straight away. You have to prove in those 3 years that you don't do anything stupid on the road. If you do happen to do any bad things* in those 3 years then your license is completely forfeit and you start from scratch (as in: eye test, first aid course, theory test, traffic thingy course, practical exam and 2 days of further driving courses = very expensive.)

* bad things include drink driving, running people down, your usual really really bad stuff that would cost your license anyway, but also a "serious" speeding offense (they never said in the course how serious it has to be - but I'm assuming something like doing 80 in the zone 30 not doing 125 on the motorway). They did also mention that a series of minor transgressions (like speeding fines) might be enough to cost you your 3 year license - but again they weren't at all clear on this.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank wattsli1 for this useful post:
  #26  
Old 18.02.2011, 21:46
yasmina
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Quote:
View Post
I have done my 2 days of courses already but you have to actually wait for the 3 years to expire before you can exchange it for the permanent one. It's not like you do the courses and then automatically get a permanent license straight away. You have to prove in those 3 years that you don't do anything stupid on the road. If you do happen to do any bad things* in those 3 years then your license is completely forfeit and you start from scratch (as in: eye test, first aid course, theory test, traffic thingy course, practical exam and 2 days of further driving courses = very expensive.)

* bad things include drink driving, running people down, your usual really really bad stuff that would cost your license anyway, but also a "serious" speeding offense (they never said in the course how serious it has to be - but I'm assuming something like doing 80 in the zone 30 not doing 125 on the motorway). They did also mention that a series of minor transgressions (like speeding fines) might be enough to cost you your 3 year license - but again they weren't at all clear on this.
Thanks alot for that added extra infomation!
I find that really shocking. Sometimes I love Switzerland, othertimes I think it's the most ridiculous country. So basically it's a provisional license, after a provisional license. Money money money. I just want to drive with a proper license and not have to worry about changing, swapping, being on probation.

*Deep breath*

So, another question... If within these 3 years, I decide to leave Switzerland for a while... let me guess, I have to start all over again...?
I'm sure I'll be retirement age still hoping that one day I can have a proper license
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 18.02.2011, 21:59
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Kanton SG
Posts: 392
Groaned at 7 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 203 Times in 116 Posts
Sliced has earned some respectSliced has earned some respect
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Sorry I lived here for 12 years and had always used my U.S. licence.. till this year when I got my citizenship here. I walked in and got one for here, thought it would be better when licence matched my new passport, no test or anything. Just did this in Jan this year.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 18.02.2011, 22:02
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Kanton SG
Posts: 392
Groaned at 7 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 203 Times in 116 Posts
Sliced has earned some respectSliced has earned some respect
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

This is a permanent licence not a three year one. Well it says it's till 2021 anyway-
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 18.02.2011, 22:10
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 3,471
Groaned at 17 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 1,996 Times in 1,189 Posts
CH_Me has a reputation beyond reputeCH_Me has a reputation beyond reputeCH_Me has a reputation beyond reputeCH_Me has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Law change or not, I think it is a good to do test to make people aware of the local driving rules. Every day I drive out of my street and chances are some clown driving over the 30 kmph speed limit doesn't give me priority and almost hits me.

Giving way to the right when there are no markings on the road, no matter how small the side street is, is something many foreigners that i've talked to don't believe is true - even my husband didn't.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank CH_Me for this useful post:
  #30  
Old 18.02.2011, 22:42
yasmina
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Quote:
View Post
Law change or not, I think it is a good to do test to make people aware of the local driving rules. Every day I drive out of my street and chances are some clown driving over the 30 kmph speed limit doesn't give me priority and almost hits me.

Giving way to the right when there are no markings on the road, no matter how small the side street is, is something many foreigners that i've talked to don't believe is true - even my husband didn't.

Hi MarieZug, yes I do agree with you, but I do feel these extra tests, a lot of money to pay, and then another provisional license that are there for people who passed after December 2005 are a little unfair.
I don't think that just because you have had your driving license a little before that cutoff date, or even a lot before makes you better equipped for driving in Switzerland, especially regarding rules such as the right priority. I have been driving with my Swiss partner many many times, and have had this right priority drilled into me, as for your husband actually I was the same when I was informed.

Quote:
View Post
Sorry I lived here for 12 years and had always used my U.S. licence.. till this year when I got my citizenship here. I walked in and got one for here, thought it would be better when licence matched my new passport, no test or anything. Just did this in Jan this year.
For example the person who posted above, and many others ... may still be unaware of Swiss rules, but are handed a license just like that. If they're really concerned about foreign drivers here, why not make everyone do a course when they first want to drive here?
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 19.02.2011, 00:07
mabern's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: V.South West of Zurich
Posts: 1,193
Groaned at 7 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 417 Times in 285 Posts
mabern has an excellent reputationmabern has an excellent reputationmabern has an excellent reputationmabern has an excellent reputation
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

It's not that 2005 is a cut-off date but an implementation date. From then on all "new" drivers have a three year provisional period. I don't think it's just new drivers arriving from abroad, likewise those who are changing to a Swiss license after years of experience abroad don't necessarily need to go through all this (depending on where their license was issued).
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 04.04.2011, 16:52
yasmina
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Bit of an update on the situation....

I've been given a full Swiss License, even though I passed after 2005 in the UK. I don't have any expiration date on it, and I do not have to take any courses. It cost 250CHF.

Cheers all.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #33  
Old 04.04.2011, 17:10
Kamarate's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchatel
Posts: 1,914
Groaned at 57 Times in 38 Posts
Thanked 1,619 Times in 685 Posts
Kamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

So it's not what you thought the other day? It seemed very unclear on the letter - they don't make it easy, do they? I'm glad it was more simple than you thought, yay!!!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Kamarate for this useful post:
  #34  
Old 04.04.2011, 17:54
yasmina
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Quote:
View Post
So it's not what you thought the other day? It seemed very unclear on the letter - they don't make it easy, do they? I'm glad it was more simple than you thought, yay!!!
Called them today to see how to do the 2 day course, and the guy that worked there said it wasn't necessary... He checked my file, said he was absolutely sure... As for it saying on the paper, he said they send the same paper out to everybody..
Seems to be very confusing and I'm still unsure why I don't have to do it, but there you go.... I should just celebrate really...
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 04.04.2011, 18:18
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 47
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 21 Times in 16 Posts
new to zurich has made some interesting contributions
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

My experience changing our license:

Walked in and gave them eye test which cost 10.50 chf from fielmann on the bahnhofstrasse, also gave them a photo, they took a copy of my B-permit, the filled in form from on-online their website, and my paper and photo card license from the UK - which was due to expire in about 2 weeks (the photo was 10 yrs old)

Received in 4 days through the post and the pink slip for 100 chf 3-4 days later.

My husbands came the day after he went in!!! Talk about Swiss being timely!!

Pink slip 2 days later for him too.

Very impressed.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 04.04.2011, 19:13
Nev
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Okay, No confusion. I thought we were talking about this:

Quote:
View Post
I'm looking for some information regarding changing a UK license into a Swiss one...a friend of mine did her practical test today, and her partner asked about converting from a UK license, and he was told that everyone had to take a driving license here in Switerland as of January 2011.
So I thought your question was about a friend who had just done her driving test in the UK and was coming to Switzerland now and her boyfriend had asked about converting her new licence.

The rule is if you get a foreign licence after 1st Dec 2005 and arrive in Switzerland within one year of it's date of issue, then when you exchange it for a Swiss one you get a probationary licence and have to do the two day course. If you have a foreign licence issued more than one year before your arrival here, then you get a full Swiss licence even if you passed your test after 2005. The Angloinfo link you posted is incomplete in that respect
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 04.04.2011, 19:43
yasmina
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Quote:
View Post
Okay, No confusion. I thought we were talking about this:

So I thought your question was about a friend who had just done her driving test in the UK and was coming to Switzerland now and her boyfriend had asked about converting her new licence.
Okay misunderstanding!

Quote:
View Post
The rule is if you get a foreign licence after 1st Dec 2005 and arrive in Switzerland within one year of it's date of issue, then when you exchange it for a Swiss one you get a probationary licence and have to do the two day course. If you have a foreign licence issued more than one year before your arrival here, then you get a full Swiss licence even if you passed your test after 2005. The Angloinfo link you posted is incomplete in that respect
Okay, great info, can feel at ease now and enjoy my driving license! I made it bold so that if any others search for this info, it's easy to see!

Although... I am wondering why mine is double the price... but I think I'm happy to pay that considering I thought I'd have to pay so much more..
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 15.04.2011, 12:36
porsch1909
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

Quote:
View Post
Okay, No confusion. I thought we were talking about this:



So I thought your question was about a friend who had just done her driving test in the UK and was coming to Switzerland now and her boyfriend had asked about converting her new licence.

The rule is if you get a foreign licence after 1st Dec 2005 and arrive in Switzerland within one year of it's date of issue, then when you exchange it for a Swiss one you get a probationary licence and have to do the two day course. If you have a foreign licence issued more than one year before your arrival here, then you get a full Swiss licence even if you passed your test after 2005. The Angloinfo link you posted is incomplete in that respect
Have you got an official link to this information by any chance? I'd like to get my wife's license changed but she passed in 2008 (arrived here in 2010 though) so would be fine under the rules you posted.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 15.04.2011, 18:29
saint7uk's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Samstagern
Posts: 989
Groaned at 9 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 586 Times in 358 Posts
saint7uk has a reputation beyond reputesaint7uk has a reputation beyond reputesaint7uk has a reputation beyond reputesaint7uk has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

It seems there is no hard and fast on this; The "Rules" seem more like guidelines in my experience. I myself had to simply give up a few categories on the license or do extended medicals if I wished to keep them... odd
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 16.04.2011, 17:29
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Lachen
Posts: 9
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
dani_boi has no particular reputation at present
Re: Change in Laws regarding UK license convertion

changed mine from UK a few years ago and no test required and I would doubt if that has changed.

Actually am now about to return to UK so anyone know what to do in reverse....the UK is not well known for its organisational skills within public bodies and so I am fearful I will have to sit a test in UK again anyone know?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
converting, driving, license




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Motorcycle laws abnerninja Transportation/driving 54 30.11.2011 17:03
Moved: how to change address on record for Swiss driving license Music Mole Transportation/driving 3 25.09.2008 12:29
getting a car license when holding a indian car driving license gundasi Transportation/driving 3 28.06.2008 00:26
Purchasing a car on international license and alter obtaining swiss license Skyfish Transportation/driving 0 17.11.2007 22:46


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:58.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0