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Several weeks ago, I let a friend drive my car back from Davos to Zurich. The silly bugger was clocked at 159km on the autobahn in Kanton Schweiz. I have just received a form from the Kantonal Police requesting details of the driver. The driver is Canadian and resident in London.

He is aware of the situation and will take responsibility. Does anybody know what the likely punishment will be?

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Old 16.02.2011, 13:09
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Does anybody know what the likely punishment will be?
Asked and answered many times already, see the following link:

http://www.englishforum.ch/search2.php?q=speeding+fine
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Old 16.02.2011, 13:19
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How do speeding fines work in Switzerland?
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Old 16.02.2011, 13:20
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Looks like 10x daily income to me.
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Re: Photographed driving at 159km

Many thanks for the links gentlemen.

Apologies for asking such a repetitive question. Will endeavour to do a search in future.

I hope my friend will 'fess up to the authorities when they contact him. He is paranoid about the repurcussions this will have on his UK license.
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Old 16.02.2011, 13:59
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Many thanks for the links gentlemen.

Apologies for asking such a repetitive question. Will endeavour to do a search in future.

I hope my friend will 'fess up to the authorities when they contact him. He is paranoid about the repurcussions this will have on his UK license.
There won't be any repercussions on his UK license. Enjoy the forum!
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Re: Photographed driving at 159km

most likely, kanton schwyz will petition the swiss federal government to apply pressure through diplomatic channels in requesting the extradition of your friend from the UK to stand trial for excessive speeding. normally such requests are easy to fight off, and the UK government is reluctant to give up its citizens (or even persons currently on its soil, e.g. Julian Assange) to foreign governments. so it looks like your friend should be ok.
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Several weeks ago, I let a friend drive my car back from Davos to Zurich. The silly bugger was clocked at 159km on the autobahn in Kanton Schweiz. I have just received a form from the Kantonal Police requesting details of the driver. The driver is Canadian and resident in London.

He is aware of the situation and will take responsibility. Does anybody know what the likely punishment will be?

Many thanks

Conor
A friend of mine has just been through this. They live in Germany but have their business in Zug. So they were blitzed also doing a formular 1 speed on a swiss Road. Since their tax bill is a "little higher" then ours, they had to pay Fr. 15,000!
If your friend does not intend to come back to Switzerland for a good bit of time, then he / she can ignore it. Otherwise they better pay, or at the next entry into Switzerland they will be detained.
Their foreign License is unaffected.
Good luck!
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I let a friend drive my car back from Davos to Zurich. The silly bugger was clocked at 159km on the autobahn

friend ? Are you sure it's a friend and not a fiend ?

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Did either of you smile and wave at the Camera? It might prove to me a great souvenier at the end of this debacle.

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Several weeks ago, I let a friend drive my car back from Davos to Zurich. The silly bugger was clocked at 159km on the autobahn in Kanton Schweiz. I have just received a form from the Kantonal Police requesting details of the driver. The driver is Canadian and resident in London.

He is aware of the situation and will take responsibility. Does anybody know what the likely punishment will be?

Many thanks

Conor
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Re: Photographed driving at 159km

I believe they still employ the guillotine in Kanton Schwyz. It draws quite a crowd every Saturday at 11am in the market square.
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If your friend does not intend to come back to Switzerland for a good bit of time, then he / she can ignore it. Otherwise they better pay, or at the next entry into Switzerland they will be detained.
I would be VERY careful with a statement like this. 159 kmh is in the area where the speeding is not some small administrative offence, but a real crime. Therefore will the punishment be decided by a real court. This is not the 40 CHF fine you can ignore and you might have to pay when you come back - As soon as it is a crime the police can and will track you abroad with the help of the local cops.

I know it is hearsay, but a "friend of a friend" was once caught speeding with a very unclear picture. He said the driver was his mother living abroad. The local cops one fine morning scared her fairly well when they came with some interpol letter and questioned her about the details...
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I would be VERY careful with a statement like this. 159 kmh is in the area where the speeding is not some small administrative offence, but a real crime. Therefore will the punishment be decided by a real court. This is not the 40 CHF fine you can ignore and you might have to pay when you come back - As soon as it is a crime the police can and will track you abroad with the help of the local cops.

I know it is hearsay, but a "friend of a friend" was once caught speeding with a very unclear picture. He said the driver was his mother living abroad. The local cops one fine morning scared her fairly well when they came with some interpol letter and questioned her about the details...

From Wikitravel:

"In Switzerland, speeding is not a violation of a traffic code but a Legal Offence, if you fail to comply (don't pay the fine) there is a good chance that an international rogatory will be issued and you have to go to court in your home country. "

Link:http://wikitravel.org/en/Switzerland

From a Swiss French website a list of the fines for speeding in a village; semi-autoroute, and highway. An interesting read

http://www.servinfo.ch/divers/amendes.html

Keep in mind that depending on the technology used for the radar, that there will be a small deduction of 2-5% of the speed to arrive at the "net" speed.

Question: Was the 159 km gross or net?
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Oh Peleese, a real crime? 40km per hr over the legal limit on a motorway? Get over yourself! Drunk at the wheel -yes, driving contrsense- yes killing family members at christmas - yes, rape and mutiliation - yes. The bloke was a bit fast on a motorway, he will get a fine and thats the end of it, but a serious crime, well there is plenty of areas that Switzerland needs to refocus - guns at home, paedofiles - etc etc
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Oh Peleese, a real crime? 40km per hr over the legal limit on a motorway? Get over yourself! Drunk at the wheel -yes, driving contrsense- yes killing family members at christmas - yes, rape and mutiliation - yes. The bloke was a bit fast on a motorway, he will get a fine and thats the end of it, but a serious crime, well there is plenty of areas that Switzerland needs to refocus - guns at home, paedofiles - etc etc
In your oppinion, at which speed would criminal behavior begin? 480 km/h? Just wonderin'....
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Oh Peleese, a real crime? 40km per hr over the legal limit on a motorway? Get over yourself! Drunk at the wheel -yes, driving contrsense- yes killing family members at christmas - yes, rape and mutiliation - yes. The bloke was a bit fast on a motorway, he will get a fine and thats the end of it, but a serious crime, well there is plenty of areas that Switzerland needs to refocus - guns at home, paedofiles - etc etc
I am not making the laws here... I am from a country where you can drive as fast as you want if there is no speed limit indicated and I like driving fast - as in "faster than 159". I am not saying that anyone who speeds is a criminal, all I am saying is that here in Switzerland you will see a judge if you speed that much. So in my opinion is "just ignore that court finding" absolutely not a very good piece of advice and can get you into real trouble.
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friend ? Are you sure it's a friend and not a fiend ?

As there is a photograph of the driver; I am glad to report that the driver bears not even a minimum resemblence. The driver is a friend; I hope he will not prove to be a fiend!
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Re: Photographed driving at 159km

Hi Connor

159 kmh? Was there a 120 speed limit? So after deduction of 5 km tolerance there is still 34 plus.

The punishment will depend very much on his income, on his previous register, etc. But every thing that exeeds 20 kmh is a serious offence and not done with a simple fine.

He will certainly be cited for an interrogation at the police and there will be a report. He will most likely lose his driving license for a few months, pay an administrative fine and also pay a monetary fine (i.e. daly rates). He will have to pay several bills from different authorities, which is confusing in this country for people that are not famililar with the system.


So, better not to speed here.


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Hi Connor

159 kmh? Was there a 120 speed limit? So after dediction of 5 km tolerance there is still 25 plus.

The punishment will depend very much on his income, on his previous register, etc.

He will most certainly be cited to an interrogation at the police and there will be a report. He will most likely lose his driving license for a few months, pay an administrative fine and also pay a monetary fine. He will have to pay several bills from different authorities, which is confusing in this country for people that are not famililar with the system.


Good luck


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My friend is a Canadian citizen, resident in London...............
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