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Old 08.03.2011, 15:30
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Re: Swiss'ify my Harley

This is the Swiss noise test they were refering to : if the cow blinks as you ride past you are (insert appropriate word)ed!!



Oh and you need a new helmet too!!

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Old 08.03.2011, 17:27
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My Harley is "docking" in Rotterdam as I type and is being loaded on to a truck to Basel later this week. Eventually I'll get it through customs etc etc

Anyway, long story short - to get plates on the baby, I'll need to change the exhaust back to stock, air intake and guess something with the front light needing to be adjusted (it's a Japanese model)

I can go to the big Harley store next to Rotkreuz and pay a lot; or I can ask here if there is a hobbyist with the needed spare parts who can fix up the bike for me

I ride a Dyna Street Bob here in Switzerland, mounted with a Vance and Hines short shot, I put quiet baffles in the exhaust, it is still loud, but beautifully loud ;o)

I have never had any problem with cops (so far...) You just gotta be careful not too mess around in the middle of the night.

Lots of cops are less strict with Harley than with a Kawasaki Ninja or CBR1000... ;o) Good for us.

I am sure it is less dangerous to ride with a loud Harley but not too fast rather than very fast on a rocket like the R1 for example !!!

Ride safe !!!
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Old 08.03.2011, 19:58
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Re: Swiss'ify my Harley

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I don't know where you bought the bike originally but US stock pipes are not going to pass here because they're much louder than EU stock pipes...
It was bought new in Japan 2007, but I made the mistake of not shipping the original pipes with the bike whoops. But that said, owning it for 3 years and agreeing on not selling it for some years to come (I forgot how many) taxes are next to nil on the import - a company in Basel is already taking care of that part

Anyway, back on topic - I think the question was if anyone was handy enough to do the changes for me or if I should go with the shop in/near Rotkreuz (rather give the money to someone here than to them there)
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Old 08.03.2011, 20:38
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It was bought new in Japan 2007, but I made the mistake of not shipping the original pipes with the bike whoops. But that said, owning it for 3 years and agreeing on not selling it for some years to come (I forgot how many) taxes are next to nil on the import - a company in Basel is already taking care of that part

Anyway, back on topic - I think the question was if anyone was handy enough to do the changes for me or if I should go with the shop in/near Rotkreuz (rather give the money to someone here than to them there)
Maybe worth considering: if you go with the shop they might lend you some original pipes just for the test...
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Old 08.03.2011, 21:09
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Do you have any reference to this? My understanding is that there is no need for an additional inspection if you have a European CoC as this is an attestation that your motorcycle conforms to EU norms. That's certainly the case with cars, and based on a quick web search, that seems to be the case with EU-spec motorcycles. See, for instance, this thread:

http://buell.actifforum.com/t5843-im...aise-en-suisse

Also referenced by the TCS website:

Motocycles
Les motos immatriculées en Europe depuis
le 01.10.1998 doivent présenter un certifi
cat de con for mité UE (plus d’infos – en
allemand – sous www.stva.zh.ch, Dienstleistungen
/Fahrzeugtechnik / Merkblatt: Selbstimport
Motorrad). Depuis le 01.01.2007,
les prescriptions sur les gaz d’échappement
Euro 3 sont appliquées. Il n’y a pas de certifi -
cat de conformité UE pour les mobylettes.



"Motorcycles:
Motorcycles first registered after 01.10.1998 need to present a EU Certificate of Conformity. After 01.01.2008, the emissions regulations of Euro 3 are applicable. No certificate of conformity is required for mopeds." More info, in German, available here: www.stva.zh.ch, Dienstleistungen /Fahrzeugtechnik / Merkblatt: Selbstimport Motorrad

The bigger question is whether they'll give you an EU CoC for a Japanese-spec bike. You may have to make changes before it's compliant.
"Motorcycles first registered after 01.10.1998..."

Mine was new (never registered), so that's probably why I needed the extra paper.

Tom
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Old 08.03.2011, 23:22
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"Motorcycles first registered after 01.10.1998..."

Mine was new (never registered), so that's probably why I needed the extra paper.

Tom
Maybe it just came under the agricultural machinery regs ...
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Re: Swiss'ify my Harley

Sorry to hi jack this thread but I have a related question.

I too am looking to buy a Harley but will import it from Italy as I would save chf 2,000 after all the costs.

I would have an importer deal with all the paper work, so thats not an issue for me.

My problem is that I have a Swiss car license but no bike license. I intend to use this bike to get my big bike license however I have been told by a friend that in order to register this bike and get the plates one of the items I would have to present is a driving license.

Is this correct or is there some way to navigate around this?

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Old 04.08.2011, 16:55
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Re: Swiss'ify my Harley

You do NOT need a license to register and insure a vehicle, my daughter bought a bike (or rather, I did) and had it registered and insured even before she had a permit, let alone a license!

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Old 04.08.2011, 18:27
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You do NOT need a license to register and insure a vehicle, my daughter bought a bike (or rather, I did) and had it registered and insured even before she had a permit, let alone a license!

Tom
Indeed, anyone can own and insure a vehicle

But only licensed drivers can drive the vehicle

The two are quite separate
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Re: Swiss'ify my Harley

Thank you. I have just bought my new 48 and cannot wait for it to arrive however I have one further question. The 48 I am buying is about 49Kw. I have riden a bike like this before however my Licence has since long expired so I plan to do the test in Switzerland by applying for a provisional Licence (white card) and doing the test within the next year. Can I use a 49 kw bike?
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Old 27.08.2011, 21:36
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I am sure it is less dangerous to ride with a loud Harley but not too fast rather than very fast on a rocket like the R1 for example !!!
I always found it completely stupid to blame the type of bike. I know a guy who is now in his wheelchair after an accident on his harley - simply because he always dressed similar to the guy in the pic above you: leather jeans, some vest with club patches and whatever the legal minimum of a helmet was. A guy in proper equipment can survive far faster crashes and I have frankly hardly ever seen a harley rider taking this seriously.

I like it that the OP needs a "certificate of conformity" - I think that in Switzerland riding a harley is in itself some sort of certificate of conformity. That's what all bankers do on the weekend when they think they are "wild".
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Re: Swiss'ify my Harley

My expat relocation company says I can bring my harley if it fits in the storage container, which it will. I will have it in Zug for 3 years, and then bring it home. Its a stock harley. Do I need the Certificate, or can I ride with US plates? Anything unique to this process? Any changes if I decide to sell it inside Switzerland? Since I will have a US Title of ownership
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Re: Swiss'ify my Harley

You can use a US plate for maximum 1 year, after which you will need to get Swiss registration.

This may or may not be easy, and could cost over CHF 1000.

What year is your bike?

Tom

P.S. You will also need Swiss insurance, even with the US plate.
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Re: Swiss'ify my Harley

Tom, it's a 2003 sportster 1200 custom. The 100th anniversary.
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Re: Swiss'ify my Harley

That should not be too difficult then, but when I get a chance I'll pop on by the local HD place to ask.

Does the speedo also read km, or only miles? The odometer can only be in miles, but the speedo must do km or both.

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That should not be too difficult then, but when I get a chance I'll pop on by the local HD place to ask.

Does the speedo also read km, or only miles? The odometer can only be in miles, but the speedo must do km or both.

Tom
Nice one Tom, I was going to recommend he talked to HD about the differences. I wasn't sure how much would need converting from that particular state as I posted in the other thread...
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I agree with (the) Village Idiot, I successfully imported a motorcycle with just the EU certificate of conformity (and I paid close to nothing)...
I brought in a Buell (Harley made 1203 cc with a vance and hines muffler, 6 piston caliper on rear instead of orginal 1 piston. Jet kits in carb, 2 1/2" exhaust instead of normal 2, carbon fiber fenders and shielding, relocated shifer and brake peddles, adjustable front brake lever, plus other mods) speedo read in both mph and km, only thing needed for MFK was orgional air cleaner and orginal muffler put on for the MFK inspection. Had my import papers with, left it for 2 days and no one said a word about anything else, passed fine. Only cost was for the inspection fee.
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