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Latest idea is that if I take the car out of CH for 3 months then I can drive it again another year in CH. Can anyone confirm this is true? If yes, any idea how the procedure goes: do I have to declare at the border "hey, i'm taking the car out of the country, start the clock" and they give me some paper or what?
If you made this up yourself, you know it's untrue.
If someone "told" you this, it's purely to tell you what you want to hear.

Having got called in to the customs people many years ago after 18 months in with a UK car, I can tell you that it's unlikely to be too painful - if you have good insurance and the car is legal and you don't drive it like you stole it, you may be ok.

What has the garage said about your chances to import/remodify the car?
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Old 03.04.2011, 16:09
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If you made this up yourself, you know it's untrue.
If someone "told" you this, it's purely to tell you what you want to hear.

Having got called in to the customs people many years ago after 18 months in with a UK car, I can tell you that it's unlikely to be too painful - if you have good insurance and the car is legal and you don't drive it like you stole it, you may be ok.

What has the garage said about your chances to import/remodify the car?
Lol you're funny, "made this up yourself". Actually a colleague asked a neighbor who's a policeman and the told him this. So I tend to believe it and thought maybe someone here knows more so I don't have to ask the colleague to ask his neighbor for details. On the other hand I guess I can just call the STVA and ask them directly or ask at the border next time I cross.

The garage answer is I think on the first page of this thread, basically told me I've no chance. In the meantime I've also passed by the prufungshalle at the STVA and got more or less the same answer from the guys there, "can be registered but will likely cost 4-5000chf".
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Re: Importing a somewhat modified car

I was looking at some second hand cars in Germany and found one that I fancy. Its from the early 90s but has some modifications (body, wheels, and engine). All the modifications have been done by professionals and has Tüv approval.

Any idea how easy this will be to register here?
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German TUV approval has no merit here. All the modifications need to be homologated for Switzerland. Depending on what you have, you might, or might not get the proper documentation from a Swiss distributor of these parts, for a price of course. It will cost you dearly to legalize something unusual, so in worst case scenario you'll just have to bring the car back to stock condition.
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Re: Importing a somewhat modified car

I was hoping that as long it was TUV approved it would pass easily. At least in Belgium that was the case.

So all the Techart, Hamann, Brabus cars in Switzerland have had to go through special approval?
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I was hoping that as long it was TUV approved it would pass easily. At least in Belgium that was the case.

So all the Techart, Hamann, Brabus cars in Switzerland have had to go through special approval?
Yes, they do.

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Old 08.04.2011, 16:02
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German TUV approval has no merit here. All the modifications need to be homologated for Switzerland. Depending on what you have, you might, or might not get the proper documentation from a Swiss distributor of these parts, for a price of course. It will cost you dearly to legalize something unusual, so in worst case scenario you'll just have to bring the car back to stock condition.

I thought all that had changed since the adoption here of the Cassis de Dijon principle?

Here is what the Zurich Strassenverkehrsamt says about personal vehicle imports;

"Bei abgeänderten Fahrzeugen (Leistungssteigerung, Tieferlegung, typenfremde Felgen usw.) sind zusätzlich die entsprechenden Garantien, Eignungserklärungen und Prüfberichte zur Fahrzeugprüfung
mitzubringen."

And the Google translation

"For modified vehicles (power, lowering kit, rims other type, etc.) in addition bring the guarantees, certificate of qualification and test reports for the vehicle to be tested. "

If anybody can make a better translation then please do so.
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"For modified vehicles (power, lowering kit, rims other type, etc.) in addition bring the guarantees, certificate of qualification and test reports for the vehicle to be tested. "

If anybody can make a better translation then please do so.
"For modified vehicles (pimped out, however mildly), please bring a specialist mechanic who knows how to grease the bureaucratic wheels and a thick wallet to help expedite the process."
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If I as a local Swiss who speaks the language fluently had a nightmare experience just because the Model we imported had cloth seats instead of leather (as per same Model in CH) -which finally required the Garage manager to go back himself to talk some sense (no money was exchanged- he just took us 'under his wing') - then I wish you good luck. Modifications or any 'souping up' is VERY unlikely to be accepted.
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No, the clock ticks from the entry date on your residency permit (that is your entry, not your cars entry). One year after that and you cannot drive a car on foreign plates (some exceptions apply, such as rental cars for short periods etc.).

You might want to push your luck - I've been here almost 3 years and not controlled once, but I wouldn't want to live with the stress of being hit with a an outrageous fine. Even the neighbours here could denunciate you.
Much worse would be to be hit or hit another car, child or whatever- as surely your Insurance would NOT be valid if you are driving on foreign plates with a foreign licence after a year here.
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Much worse would be to be hit or hit another car, child or whatever- as surely your Insurance would NOT be valid if you are driving on foreign plates with a foreign licence after a year here.
But wait, in have insurance in RO, not CH, and they don't care about swiss law as long as my car is registered in RO.
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But wait, in have insurance in RO, not CH, and they don't care about swiss law as long as my car is registered in RO.
Asked the border guard about the 3 months thing: it's true, except the owner of the car (in this case me) would have to go out of the country for 3 months too
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Re: Importing a somewhat modified car

Quick update: I thought of another possibility this morning, namely having the car registered to a Romanian company instead of myself. Thought surely that would be allowed. Called STVA, turns out it isn't: they told me the driving license actually determines if you're allowed to drive a foreign registered car or not, so if you have a Swiss license you can only drive Swiss registered cars.
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Quick update: I thought of another possibility this morning, namely having the car registered to a Romanian company instead of myself. Thought surely that would be allowed. Called STVA, turns out it isn't: they told me the driving license actually determines if you're allowed to drive a foreign registered car or not, so if you have a Swiss license you can only drive Swiss registered cars.
It might have been explained to you this way, but then this wasn't done properly. The driving license has nothing to do with whether you are allowed to drive a non-Swiss registered car over here. For example:
1. You can drive with your EU license within your first year in Switzerland, but even during that time restrictions apply re the use of foreign registered cars.
2. Even with a Swiss license you can rent a car abroad and drive it in Switzerland - but only for a few days.

Good luck on your continued quest for loopholes.
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