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Is it law to wear seat belts for adult passengers traveling in car back seats?

I know safety issues and all, just wanted to check what Swiss law say about this.

What about in Germany, Italy, France etc?

Info pls.
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Old 16.03.2011, 10:44
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Re: passenger back seat belts

It is Swiss law. Everyone in the car must be buckled up.

German:

http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/741_11/a3a.html

French:

http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/rs/741_11/a3a.html

Not sure of the other countries.

If the child is under 12 years of age and under 150 cm, they also need either a baby seat or a seat booster (based on age/size).

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Re: passenger back seat belts

Why do you not read about the laws of the country where you live?

Read this book as soon as possible, there are many more laws waiting for you!

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...in+switzerland
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Is it law to wear seat belts for adult passengers traveling in car back seats?

I know safety issues and all, just wanted to check what Swiss law say about this.

What about in Germany, Italy, France etc?

Info pls.
I don't understand why you are asking. Are you hoping to be able to drive without using belts in the back? It's made law for a reason and I would have thought anyone would want to minimize injury what a country's law stated...
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Why do you not read about the laws of the country where you live?

Read this book as soon as possible, there are many more laws waiting for you!

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...in+switzerland
The fact is that most people don't. It's pretty normal, most people will ask their friends questions & the rest is pretty obvious, definitely not something I would consider buying a book about.
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Re: passenger back seat belts

Thanks for all those useful replies. I am asked this question to know what Swiss law says about seat belts. Its always better to know rather ignoring apart from ones safety issues bla bla.

If every one buys a rule books and follows then there won't be any discussion isn't it.

Actually I love everyone having a rule book in their hands. Just kidding

Thanks anyway.
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Old 16.03.2011, 11:20
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Re: passenger back seat belts

It has been the law in old EU countries for many years. Even in Switzerland too. The OP must be new to this continent. Or new to driving maybe? There are still countries where laws for basic safety are not enforced... even in parts of Europe, new EU members for example.
Not a good idea to drive till you know the rules of the country you are in. No harm in reading up on them as in Switzerland they are few compared to the bible like rules of some other european countries.
(Been there, studied that...)
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Old 16.03.2011, 11:23
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Re: passenger back seat belts

I noticed there's seatbelts and a 'buckle-up' sign next to the 'no smoking' sign in Publicars....but I've never seen anyone use the seat belts.
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Re: passenger back seat belts

I believe the only exemption is cars that are not installed with rear seatbelts, such as some calssic cars (Oldtimers they call them here). That would require verification though.
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The fact is that most people don't. It's pretty normal, most people will ask their friends questions & the rest is pretty obvious, definitely not something I would consider buying a book about.
I have encountered police checks when you come in to the airport
in Zürich, and they do make problems when the passengers in the
back are not seat belted. Another time on the A1, as I was exiting,
there was a police check, and got a nice fine for having more passengers
then the car was certified for.
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PaddyG-probably not allowed to carry back seat passengers or drive above 10km per hour either though!
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Irrespective of any law, it's plain common sense!
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Is it law to wear seat belts for adult passengers traveling in car back seats?

I know safety issues and all, just wanted to check what Swiss law say about this.

What about in Germany, Italy, France etc?

Info pls.
In every European country is the law pretty much the same: You have to buckle up. If you don't, you will get fined.

I do not think this is Europe exclusive either - the only country I am aware of where people do not buckle up on the back seat is China.

The only exception I am aware of in Europe are classic cars. My mom used to drive a 1950s car that did not have seat belts on the back seat - they were not standard back then. the German law at least did not enforce her to modify the car.
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Re: passenger back seat belts

I often have to force people in the back of my car to buckle up, because I will be the one to be held responsible [and to be traumatized ]. For example, my sister who is really afraid of bad things happening, used to get really annoyed if I asked her to buckle up. Weird! Also the easy way people say: 'oh, just for once you can take your toddler without car seat' - I don't think so!
In Switzerland, I see lots of people in the 'countryside' driving without wearing belts, by the way. I feel really unsafe not wearing one, but I guess it is a habit to them?!
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Old 16.03.2011, 13:55
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Re: passenger back seat belts

I've found often, if I'm giving a lift to people of quite varying nationalities, that I have to insist they buckle up in the back. I just tell them that I'm the one who gets fined if they don't, rather than giving them a lecture on safety.
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In Switzerland, I see lots of people in the 'countryside' driving without wearing belts, by the way. I feel really unsafe not wearing one, but I guess it is a habit to them?!
That reminds me of an old punk song (Terrorgruppe: "Keine Airbags für die CSU"). People who vote against any progress and want to be stuck in the 1960s should not be allowed to have modern safety features on their cars either...
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In every European country is the law pretty much the same: You have to buckle up. If you don't, you will get fined.

I do not think this is Europe exclusive either - the only country I am aware of where people do not buckle up on the back seat is China.

The only exception I am aware of in Europe are classic cars. My mom used to drive a 1950s car that did not have seat belts on the back seat - they were not standard back then. the German law at least did not enforce her to modify the car.
In the United States, there is no laws on compulsory wearing of seat
belts for rear back passengers, and in my decades there I never saw
it practiced. And the state of New Hampshire has no seat belt laws
at all!

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt_legislation

it lists Canada, Spain, United States as having no rear seat belt
legislation.

Wiki even has as section on side-effects on seat belts:

Side-effects of seat belts

Critics have pointed to fatalities and injuries caused by wearing seat-belts. Chest injury may cause cardiac arrest, lung bruises are amongst the most common causes of death by seat-belts especially for people of weak heart such as the elderly who can also suffer a heart attack and not be able to free from the seatbelt in order to get to help. In neck injury cases, the deceleration from a high-speed impact can cause a seat-belt wearer's head to continue forward suddenly while the body is restrained, potentially causing paralyzing injuries. A study of such injuries notes "Seatbelts save lives. However, they may cause injury to adjacent structures and when they malfunction can cause injury to the abdominal viscera, bony skeleton and vascular structures. The motor industry has attempted to reduce these injuries by modification of vehicle design and safety equipment."

^
Smith, J. E. (2005). Injuries caused by seatbelt - Trauma. tra.sagepub.com. pp. Vol. 7, No. 4, 211–215. http://tra.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/7/4/211.
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Re: passenger back seat belts

There is an interesting article in "More Freakonomics" about seat belts - and how, even when looked at against all car produced, it is by far the cheapest and most effective way of saving a life.

If I'm driving - I don't pull away until the elephant behind me has their belt on. I'm not bothered about saving their life - I just don't want them hitting me!
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There is an interesting article in "More Freakonomics" about seat belts - and how, even when looked at against all car produced, it is by far the cheapest and most effective way of saving a life.

If I'm driving - I don't pull away until the elephant behind me has their belt on. I'm not bothered about saving their life - I just don't want them hitting me!
When I was on holiday in Hawaii, I was driving a rented SUV along
a one lane highway, and came across signs to slow down, traffic
signal ahead, and I slowed down, and came to a full stop at the red light. About 20 seconds later, I hear the sound of crash, and my head slams against the steering wheel. The driver driving a convertible crashed into me, forcing my SUV into the car in front of me.

I had minor bleeding around the eye area, and the police and ambulance came, and they were asking me, were you wearing a seat belt, and I definitely was. An ambulance took me to the ER (the paramedics
announce we have another sandwich here) to get tetanus shots, and
wound area cleaned up. Now being that Hawaii is a no fault-state, the
$6,000 damage to my rental car was billed to me. (Thank g-d my
credit card insurance took care of it at the end).
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