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Re: Question on who has right of way (Bicycle or Car)

As a cyclist I stop behind a car if it's indicating right, and expect it to go and turn right without waiting for me. If there are a row of cars all wanting to turn right, and indicating to do so, I'll overtake them on the left.
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Re: Question on who has right of way (Bicycle or Car)

I did my driving test here. When turning right, my instructor said to move over to the right and block the road to the gutter so that a bike can't pull up beside you. That way, you have priority and you eliminate the risk of a bike getting in your blind spot.
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Old 11.04.2011, 20:37
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I say option 3.
The driving instructor instructed me to "cut off cyclists" if you are turning the corner right. Even with a cycle lane. You have right of way if you got there first.

If that is really what you are supposed to do, then a lot of Swiss drivers have been paying close attention to their instructors, because I DO get cut off all the time by cars overtaking me and then turning right! (Not at traffic lights, but just while driving.)
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Old 11.04.2011, 21:12
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Re: Question on who has right of way (Bicycle or Car)

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Well in practice, I find the best way to deal with them pesky cyclists is to open the passenger door when they try it. Thats sorts em out and they cant get ahead of you to cause a problem.
Killed many lately? As a cyclist, I find the biggest thing I have to watch out for, is drivers who open their door without checking to see if there is a cyclist about to go past. I have seen several nasty accidents caused through this type of situation - and know of a recent death due to the cyclist swerving to avoid the car door and getting hit by a truck instead.
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I did my driving test here. When turning right, my instructor said to move over to the right and block the road to the gutter so that a bike can't pull up beside you. That way, you have priority and you eliminate the risk of a bike getting in your blind spot.
That makes sense - being as far to the right as possible is part of the general driving code anyway, (I think.)
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I did my driving test here. When turning right, my instructor said to move over to the right and block the road to the gutter so that a bike can't pull up beside you. That way, you have priority and you eliminate the risk of a bike getting in your blind spot.

Not always true (as per my driving instructor)

I took the classes here and i remember my instructor clearly mentioning this to me, it goes like this,

If you are turning right from a lane where there is no arrow (on the road), or if there is an arrow pointing straight as well as an arrow pointing right then and only then you are supposed to cut off the cyclist space and proceed infront of the cyclist. But for some reason you have not cut off the space then you have to let the cyclist pass before you.

But if you are on a lane where there is cyclist lane clearly mentioned or you are on the lane where there is only an arrow pointing to the right then you have to stop (if at traffic lights) leaving space of cyclist and let the cyclist pass you before you proceed.
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I actually took driving lessons here, before taking the practical test, which one does if one comes from a third world country such as New Zealand. There was no way I wanted to fail, and have to pay to do the whole test again(!)

I say option 3.
The driving instructor instructed me to "cut off cyclists" if you are turning the corner right. Even with a cycle lane. You have right of way if you got there first.
Your driving instructor is wrong. Cyclist have right of way in a cycle lane. If you cross one you must give way. Common sense isn't it?
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Re: Question on who has right of way (Bicycle or Car)

Further to the original post.

A few years back I was approaching Kunsthaus from the direction of central - to go up the hill to Romerhof. I was on my bike and stuck to the pavement side. I slowed, as I usually do, to a walking pace. The car stopped at the traffic lights was a policecar.

When the traffic lights turned green I dumped my human body clutch with an attempt to out-drag the policecar for the first 50 metres. It worked - sort of.

He turned right, at a no right turn junction, without indicating, and with no blues and twos.

I prompty went into the side of his car - taking out his wing-mirror - before bouncing across the bonnet and landing on my arse/head (same thing really).

Anyway, the bike was OK, and I had only a few bruises. They took my details and checked I got home OK (which is quite odd walking myself and the bike home with a policecar kerbcrawling behind).

Anyway, later that day the doorbell rang, and it was the police officers with the accident report. The police officer was 100% at fault, the senior guy (who hadn't been driving) said the younger officer wouldn't be driving for a long time because he caused the accident.

They were most apologetic.

I didn't take it any further - working on the principle it would be better to be on good terms with the police - and be owed a favour.

About 6 months later, I was cycling home from an evening out - and ran across a pedestrian crossing. I got pulled by the police. I had had quite a few sherries that evening. They took my address - checked - and then sent me on my way.

I guess the favour has been used up.
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