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Old 12.05.2011, 17:04
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Compulsory or not, get one.
Especially if you're not used to have a bike. You don't think yet of the many nice things: rat crossing, mosquitoes in your eyes, pot holes, cars, passing by going to car road, etc, etc...
Personally I don't wear one, unless I am on my racing bike, but it is only because I am dutch and over there nobody wears one, unless you are
a: a foreigner, or b: an idiot. So it's just national pride. We think we all have such superior control over our bikes that we don't need helmets. Which should put US in the B categorie, of course...

Helmets won't help you against mosquitoes, glasses will!
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Personally I don't wear one, unless I am on my racing bike, but it is only because I am dutch and over there nobody wears one, unless you are
a: a foreigner, or b: an idiot. So it's just national pride. We think we all have such superior control over our bikes that we don't need helmets. Which should put US in the B categorie, of course...

Helmets won't help you against mosquitoes, glasses will!
Yeah thanks for the glasses tips


Have you ever ride your bike without glasses and without helmet, when the mosquito hits you in the eye?
well I was not wearing any of those, but I guess I was lucky during the fall

But in general you don't want to chance it-
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Old 12.05.2011, 17:14
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Re: Buying a bike

Personally I think you have to be some sort of idiot not to wear a helmet. It falls in the 'seatbelts in cars' catagory with me: feels odd without it.

It's just common sense in my opinion, but on the other hand, we do have the darwin awards.
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Old 12.05.2011, 17:25
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Personally I think you have to be some sort of idiot not to wear a helmet. It falls in the 'seatbelts in cars' catagory with me: feels odd without it.

It's just common sense in my opinion, but on the other hand, we do have the darwin awards.
Well, there are a lot of serious studies that claim that wearing a helmet on a bike might not help you so much. Just as there are many studies claiming it does, of course. http://www.cyclehelmets.org/
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Old 12.05.2011, 17:31
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Well, there are a lot of serious studies that claim that wearing a helmet on a bike might not help you so much. Just as there are many studies claiming it does, of course. http://www.cyclehelmets.org/

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Well, I DID say I and probably most other dutch people belong in the "Idiot" category, but I would be seriously interested in seeing a study where they compare the number of head injuries and/or fatalities in NL with that in other countries where more people wear helmets.
There are a lot of things that are part of being safe on a bike, the helmet is imho not the biggest part of it. Looking around you, following the traffic rules, and yes, having good control over your bike, making sure it is in good working order (brakes!) are also very important factors.
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Re: Buying a bike

Hi all,

I have a bike i will be willing to sell in about 3 weeks. Its pretty snazzy with gears . Its apparently a womans bike but I cant tell the difference ( although its purple and blue and perhaps a little smaller but the seat is adjustable) .I wanted to sell it for about 250 CHF
. Let me know if anyone is interested.

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Old 12.05.2011, 17:46
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Re: Buying a bike

I think Phil's thread is a good one and of great interest to many- made a new thread on helmets.
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Old 13.05.2011, 01:14
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Re: Buying a bike

I've bought two city bikes in the past year from these guys (the Zurich store, near Paradeplatz):

http://velomaerkte.ch/

I bought the first for 800 CHF and the second for about 600 CHF. I don't think they have many that are priced lower than this. Otherwise, they have a good range of bikes.

They have good customer service and even gave my first bike a free service after 8 months - only two days before it got nicked, haha.

I'd probably go back just because they are friendly and helpful.

Kash.

PS. Last time i checked they are only open Tue-Sat
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they are not citybikes though, but I could build you one. Just ask

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Old 13.05.2011, 09:27
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Well, I DID say I and probably most other dutch people belong in the "Idiot" category, but I would be seriously interested in seeing a study where they compare the number of head injuries and/or fatalities in NL with that in other countries where more people wear helmets.
There are a lot of things that are part of being safe on a bike, the helmet is imho not the biggest part of it. Looking around you, following the traffic rules, and yes, having good control over your bike, making sure it is in good working order (brakes!) are also very important factors.
That's very true. How many scared people/not confident on the bike I have seen?
Like the one indicating they are going to turn by raising their arm left or right without even looking what's behind them?
(think the bus coming next to you prior to do that).

But it also depends on other road users: I got hit by cars 2 times and it was 100% their fault. Ok I had no helmet anyway, but it take 1 bad fall to have serious brain damage...

Also the bad road condition can make you fall: you lose attention for a second while you hit the pothole, lose balance, fall, screw your head.
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Old 13.05.2011, 09:38
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Re: Buying a bike

@Sport XX

Citybike Steelrider Men for CHF 349, that's slightly below EUR 300 and it's new and unused:


http://www.sportxx.ch/g3.cms/s_page/...s_level/827990
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Old 15.05.2011, 15:14
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Citybike Steelrider Men for CHF 349, that's slightly below EUR 300 and it's new and unused:


http://www.sportxx.ch/g3.cms/s_page/...s_level/827990
Cheers. I'll pop over to the nearest shop next week and take a look.
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Re: Buying a bike

Like was said ...... "ladies" like to dismount from their bikes by standing on one leg and gracefully sliding their other leg thru the V gap. As opposed to slinging their leg over the saddle.

That is a design left over from the olden days. These days females are quite capable of slinging legs over saddles. But sometimes she wears a mini or a flowing skirt (the odd-bod rebel type) so she sticks to the multi-function style "ladies" bike.

Lighter yes, because she is lighter than the male, generally.
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Re: Buying a bike

I am now the proud owner of a Migros M-Budget bike. Sadly it is black in colour and not the stripey white and green.

I bought it from the SportXx in Herblingen and rode it home (without a helmet )

The chain seem to grate/rattle a bit as if not in gear properly and at one point it fell off the gear altogether and jammed and I had to spend a few minutes putting the chain back on.

I didn't realise I would get a 'free' velovignette with the new bike and so now i have a spare one for free for anyone who needs one.

Also need to make sure I wear sunglasses since I caught a few bugs in my eyes...
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You want:
- Avoid suspension if it's for "city use". (loss of energy, slow you down, useless). Or front suspension only with the option to "block them" on demand (expensive bikes only).

- Nice saddle for comfort and protect your balls (ouch...)

- Nice pedals (avoid the fancy "pro" ones with the shoes because you'll fall with the bike (they have some "self removal mechanism" but it's spooky)

- Decent handles or gloves

- Sunglasses, helmet

- Decent locker, and chain

- Wheels adapted to your environment (less large= road)

- Weight not really relevant although too heavy it's pain to carry.

- Adapted brakes: "normal U brakes" will need pads replacement every months or two (or regularly at best).

-Special clothes for the rain, visibility, safety, etc...

- Place to shower at work after the bike ride (groiin pig)

- Good lights (cheap ones will be rubbish and use batteries lot).

- Some basic tool for the occasional flat tire, etc...

-etc....
I told you so (sunglasses are for mosquitos mainly)
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Old 19.05.2011, 20:27
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Which is why I ride a men's bike. It feels more 'stable'. And a helmet not only protects your skull but also, oddly enough, saved my glasses from damage when, in rain, my front wheel skidded on a railway line which ran at a narrow angle across the road. Mind you, it didn't save my collar bone but you can't have everything.
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Old 19.05.2011, 20:41
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Re: Buying a bike

The gears take a little while to settle. There are two ways to adust them, and assuming you have some on the crank (middle of the bike) as well as the rear wheel this means there are four potential adjustments.

For minor adjustments which you can fiddle with to your heart's content as you're cycling (and hence can immediately test) there will be plastic barrels you can turn right where the cable enters the gear levers on the handlebars. Do half turns at a time and see if things improve.

You may need to tweak them for the first couple of days, and then when the weather changes (Summer to Winter for eg) as cables expand/shrink slightly.

If these minor adjustments ever aren't enough and you can't get the highest or lowest gear then you'll need to adjust the cable where it enters the gears (i.e.at the other end to the levers). This usually isn't necessary though.

FYI Brakes adjust the same way.

There are a couple of other adjustment screws near the rear gears on the rear derailleur.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=der...w=1103&bih=596

These should be explained in your manual and, again, don't usually need altering, but if you ever get new rear cogs/sprokets, or a new chain, they might. They adjust the angle and distance of the derailleur from the sprokets. Or something like that. Mine have never needed adjusting.
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The gears take a little while to settle. There are two ways to adust them, and assuming you have some on the crank (middle of the bike) as well as the rear wheel this means there are four potential adjustments.

For minor adjustments which you can fiddle with to your heart's content as you're cycling (and hence can immediately test) there will be plastic barrels you can turn right where the cable enters the gear levers on the handlebars. Do half turns at a time and see if things improve.

You may need to tweak them for the first couple of days, and then when the weather changes (Summer to Winter for eg) as cables expand/shrink slightly.

If these minor adjustments ever aren't enough and you can't get the highest or lowest gear then you'll need to adjust the cable where it enters the gears (i.e.at the other end to the levers). This usually isn't necessary though.

FYI Brakes adjust the same way.

There are a couple of other adjustment screws near the rear gears on the rear derailleur.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=der...w=1103&bih=596

These should be explained in your manual and, again, don't usually need altering, but if you ever get new rear cogs/sprokets, or a new chain, they might. They adjust the angle and distance of the derailleur from the sprokets. Or something like that. Mine have never needed adjusting.
thanks. i was originally going to look for a fixed gear bike to avoid this kind of hassle...
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My bike no doubt cost more than your Migros one (I got Shimano SLX components) but the gears have been perfect. Just some minor tweaking by turning those plastic barrels. Modern gears shouldn't need much work once the cables have stretched over the first few days.
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