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Swiss Map online (DIY maps) from June 2011

The Swiss elves at the cartography department have created a rather splendid new package for those of us who use and need maps as part of our outdoor craving.

As of sometime in June 2011, the traditional 1:25'000, 1:50'000 and 1:100'000 scaled maps (paper versions) will no longer be available for purchase as the data will be in digital format only.

Check here for details.

A first time charge of CHF 49.- covers the install and the annual subscription rate is subsequently CHF 29.-

This is all good for me, I'll be able to print my own maps either in the traditional style or use the aerial view option (à la Google Earth) with GPS co-ordinates when off-trail.

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Old 27.05.2011, 15:16
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Re: Swiss Map online (DIY maps) from June 2011

Thanks for the information.

Just one important correction - the paper versions will still be available. The product being replaced is the existing digital "Swiss Map" which is available on CD/DVD

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Re: Swiss Map online (DIY maps) from June 2011

I wonder if this would be possible to use with PDA for treks. Having super maps somewhere back home in computer doesn't help me much, I can dream in www.mapplus.ch for free. I know Garmin had some serious issues porting their topo software to Android, is it solved now? Their topo maps belong to top. Or do you guys know any other reasonable way to see surrounding terrain (10-20km) of the trek with current position? (planning to buy some android PDA, and i don't know how well built-in google maps perform).
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I wonder if this would be possible to use with PDA for treks. Having super maps somewhere back home in computer doesn't help me much, I can dream in www.mapplus.ch for free. I know Garmin had some serious issues porting their topo software to Android, is it solved now? Their topo maps belong to top. Or do you guys know any other reasonable way to see surrounding terrain (10-20km) of the trek with current position? (planning to buy some android PDA, and i don't know how well built-in google maps perform).
Looks like they have mobile maps for Windows mobile, Symbian S60, iPhone and iPad. See http://www.swisstopo.admin.ch/intern...ps/mobile.html

I use it on my Touch HD2 (as demoed on their website). Works great when hiking. Just make sure you have enough juice to power your PDA.


I use the Proporta Turbocharger. See here:http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05...287&t_mode=des

So I never need a dedicated Garmin or something... Google Maps usualy works like a charm on any Android PDA, but only when you have a good connection, and only if you are willing to continuously download maps. When trekking, connection can be a major issue, and continuously downloading maps to your PDA can be quite expensive.
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Old 27.05.2011, 19:25
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Thanks for the information.

Just one important correction - the paper versions will still be available. The product being replaced is the existing digital "Swiss Map" which is available on CD/DVD

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Thanks for confirming that Jekyll. The OP got me feeling a bit worried as I thought I wouldn't be able to indulge my map fetish after June this year!

BTW, for those interested Swiss Topo maps are available here for the entire country. Great for planning routes but I'd still take the paper one out and about with me.
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Re: Swiss Map online (DIY maps) from June 2011

Thanks for the information.

While there are map experts assembled here, can I ask:

Are there maps out there that are a compromise between Google Maps and the detailed topographical maps? I want to plan some modest hikes, initially within a fairly short distance of Lake Zurich. I'd like maps which show all the established wanderweg trails and other well-trodden paths, but that are a bit clearer and more user-friendly than the hard-core contour maps. If they showed stations and bus routes, so much the better.

Any pointers?
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Old 27.05.2011, 22:55
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The product being replaced is the existing digital "Swiss Map" which is available on CD/DVD
This is probably a reaction to http://www.wanderland.ch, whose online map functionality has recently been enhanced to allow you to print at various scales up to 1:10,000. There isn't really much need to buy the Swisstopo DVDs any more, at least not for people who are just planning straightforward hikes.
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Old 27.05.2011, 23:08
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If they showed stations and bus routes, so much the better.
http://map.geo.admin.ch (link already posted by Eire) does this. You can choose to superimpose various stuff on the base map, including hiking paths, bus routes, etc. Can be zoomed and printed.
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http://map.geo.admin.ch (link already posted by Eire) does this. You can choose to superimpose various stuff on the base map, including hiking paths, bus routes, etc. Can be zoomed and printed.
Thanks, but those base maps are still horrible to use -- unless I'm missing another view. I'd like something that has the clarity and usability of Google Maps, but with footpaths.

I appreciate that serious hikers wlil need this wealth of detail of contours and buildings but I'm after something far more superficial.
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Re: Swiss Map online (DIY maps) from June 2011

The "Hiking / Bridle maps" site at http://www.wanderreitkarte.de/ is derived from OpenStreetmap and is quite detailed for Switzerland. Zoom in on some hiking trail that you're familiar with...

The site seems to be German only, but has Garmin downloads for Switzerland available.
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Great for planning routes but I'd still take the paper one out and about with me.
Tend to agree.. paper maps still have the best built-in redundancy features.
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I've found a few decent images of street maps for Zurich's city center. But I'm looking for a large image >2MP of the streets of the whole city of Zurich.

I found the online map thing: http://www.stadtplan.stadt-zuerich.c...stadtplan.aspx, and of course google maps, mapquest, etc. but I'd like to save the entire map in one single image.

Here's the best I've got so far (its stitched together from pictures of a physical map):
http://alecjacobson.com/programs/iph...rich-city-map/
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Old 29.06.2011, 19:59
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Re: Swiss Map online (DIY maps) from June 2011

So... I have just received my copy of Swiss Map Online and have installed it on my Mac.

First impressions are that it's quite buggy - refreshing the display is slow and, when you zoom in or out, some areas of the display fail to refresh altogether, leaving big black areas in the middle of the screen. I managed to crash the product within ten minutes of installing it by trying to overlay a polyline on the base map. Hopefully these are just the kind of teething problems that you get with any new product, and Swisstopo will resolve the issues quickly. I would be interested to know from anyone else who has installed it if they have seen similar problems.

In the meantime... as a result of buying this, I now have two Swiss Map 25 DVDs (Bern and Valais) which I no longer need and will happily give for free to any hikers out there who would like them. I no longer have the original packaging, but I don't think any serial number or key was needed to use them. PM me if interested.
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In the meantime... as a result of buying this, I now have two Swiss Map 25 DVDs (Bern and Valais) which I no longer need and will happily give for free to any hikers out there who would like them.
If anyone else is in a similar situation and has unloved DVDs (any scale) I will be delighted to give them a loving home (except for Valais 1:25,000 which I already have). Free would be wonderful, but would happily pay a "reasonable" price. I am currently in Switzerland so shipping overseas is not an issue.
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Looks like they have mobile maps for Windows mobile, Symbian S60, iPhone and iPad. See http://www.swisstopo.admin.ch/intern...ps/mobile.html
Anyone care to guess when/whether they will make it available on Android devices?
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From the SwissTopo website (link in OP, bold added):
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Swiss Map online offers you new all map scales and also high-resolution aerial photographs (orthofotos) of the whole of Switzerland. Division of the products into Swiss Map 25, 50 and 100 and into individual sections has been cancelled; the data is available on the Internet instead. As far as you are concerned, this means that you always have the very latest data at your fingertips and can automatically benefit from revisions.
Sure could have used the latestt revisions today

I planned a hike using both SwissMap 25 (DVD) and the current paper map, and mid-hike I had this most unwelcome surprise:


Added about 300 meters of elevation gain to what was planned as an easy hike.

The Swiss hiking network is dynamic, and anything that gives current data is most welcome.
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Re: Swiss Map online (DIY maps) from June 2011

I get the impression, though, that when they refer to the latest revisions, all they are saying is that when a new version of one of the paper maps comes out, the corresponding online map will be automatically updated.

An example, in the Zermatt valley: the "Edelweissweg" that goes up to the Kinhütte from Wildikin (bridge at 2228 m on the map). This path has existed for several years on the ground, but it does not appear on the Swiss Map Online 1:25,000 map (it doesn't appear on the map on www.wanderland.ch either).

I may be wrong, but I am guessing that this means the online map is based on a version of the printed sheet 1328 (Randa) that dates beck to before the path existed.
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Re: Swiss Map online (DIY maps) from June 2011

Does anyone know whether the online map can be used on more than one computer (desktop with big screen; laptop for travel)? Given the registration key I fear not
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