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Bringing a UK Motorbike to Switzerland

HI,

I'm in the process of moving to switzerland and was hoping to bring my CBR600 with me. The process has been far from straightforward.

Its been quite difficult to track down any UK insurance companies that would cover me to ride in Zurich for anything other than tourist style travelling. So I'm starting to feel like the best way forward is to change the plates on my bike over to swiss ones asap, and simply get swiss motorbike insurance.

Has anybody had any experience of this/got any tips? also my uk road tax runs out in the next 2 weeks, and i'm not entirely sure if i need to renew it?? If I am going to be in Switzerland? And potentially have swiss plates.

hmm.. any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Bringing a UK Motorbike to Switzerland

Hi,
I bought my 2008 CBR600RR across to Basel last year turned out to be a fairly painless process. I had it insured by a Swiss insurer (zurich) while it was still in the uk, on its' uk plate. I declared it as part of my household goods when i moved out here, drove it across into Switzerland, stopping at the German border to export it from the EU and into Switzerland (half an hour process). I drove it for a couple of months on the uk plates and by then it needed a service and new tyres so i paid the dealer to register it for me and 3 days later picked it up with all inspections and certificates done and swiss plates fitted. Don't know what i paid for this but all in was 1400chf - which was for 2 tyres, full service etc.

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Re: Bringing a UK Motorbike to Switzerland

The bike has to be legal here and you can keep UK reg' for 12 months after you not the bike arrive. If you keep it on UK plates it must be fully taxed, tested and insured, and there is a broker that will give you cover, but I can't remember the name. If you PM kevlegs he knows them though and will be able to help with contact details, or search the car insurance threads there are a few.

If you want to switch to Swissy plates then you would need to get all the paperwork, certificates etc and import it as part of your possesion, then get it tested and modified, which may or may not be straight forward... or cheap. Then it will always be an import so worth less than a Swiss model if you sell it, or you have to fork out to go through the process to export it.

I'd maybe look to sell it in blighty, and buy another here, might not be the cheapest but waay less stress... and I know someone who has a CBR600 for sale
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Re: Bringing a UK Motorbike to Switzerland

Thanks for the info. The main bit thats been throwing me is insurance...

I will message kevlegs and also try Zurich.

My original plan was to ride the bike over here with UK plates until Oct/Nov. Take it back to the UK to sell it and then spend money on an upgrade.

I've been talking to AXA Wintertur, and they've advised me only swiss plates will cut it with swiss insurance companies.

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Re: Bringing a UK Motorbike to Switzerland

Are you doing the move yourself or are you getting a relo' package?

If you are getting a package, get them to put the bike on your invent' as a personal possession so they get the stamm number, and you don't have to mess about at the border. If not you can also do the import paperwork at the zoll in Zurich (where I did my car) which is easier than the hassle there can be at Basel with the hoards of folks going through there or if you are crossing out of hours.

I would tax and if needed test the bike in the UK though, it will just give you more time and take the pressure off, then you can make a decision as whether to Swissify the bike or take it back and sell it
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Re: Bringing a UK Motorbike to Switzerland

I was planning on driving down in a van with the motorbike in the back. Guess I'd better work out how to put it on my inventory list then?

Have to say... its all proving to be a lot more complicated that I thought it was going to be!

My bike is only worth 1500 GBP. So was hoping just to bring it in without too many expenses.
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Then it will always be an import so worth less than a Swiss model if you sell it
There is nothing on the gray card to indicate that my LeMans is an import.

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Then it will always be an import so worth less than a Swiss model if you sell it, or you have to fork out to go through the process to export it.
I don't know about a CBR only worth £1.5k, but it's well worth importing a UK bike at the moment - they're way cheaper. I'm thinking of importing one even with the import tax. I don't know how much less they'd go for when I came to sell but I'd be surprised if there's much difference. Lots of Swiss are importing both cars and bikes right now.

It's not like the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
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There is nothing on the gray card to indicate that my LeMans is an import.

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Just little things like integrity and disclosing the bike history when asked, or when showing a service book and getting asked why all the stamps are from X country not CH. Imported vehicles invariably always have a lower price tags than domestic vehicles.

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My bike is only worth 1500 GBP. So was hoping just to bring it in without too many expenses.
Someone earlier mentioned CHF 1400 for import costs, so that's not far off the value of your bike.... if it was in an accident with repairs costing that most insurance companies would right it off. So sadly it would seem money down the drain but, pm me and I'll put you in touch with the guy who has A Swiss CBR 600 for sale and you can draw a direct comparison between the same machines.
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Re: Bringing a UK Motorbike to Switzerland

Ass virtually no vehicles are manufactured in CH, virtually ALL vehicles are imported, so what's the difference?

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Ass virtually no vehicles are manufactured in CH, virtually ALL vehicles are imported, so what's the difference?

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I have always womdered about this, there is no reason to pay more & I never understand why the Swiss would want to.
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Re: Bringing a UK Motorbike to Switzerland

The difference would be the specification for the country for which the vehicle is originally intended, and these can vary dramatically. ECU's, exhausts systems, emisions, brakes, body parts, suspension, ride heights even engines on certain models can all be different on a US/EURO/Swiss spec vehicle. Before you start on simple things like lights and speedo's etc. So, a vehicle may pass a road worthiness test and have Swiss plates, but when it comes to service or repair an import can be a nightmare in terms of part availability and cost.
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The difference would be the specification for the country for which the vehicle is originally intended, and these can vary dramatically. ECU's, exhausts systems, emisions, brakes, body parts, suspension, ride heights even engines on certain models can all be different on a US/EURO/Swiss spec vehicle. Before you start on simple things like lights and speedo's etc. So, a vehicle may pass a road worthiness test and have Swiss plates, but when it comes to service or repair an import can be a nightmare in terms of part availability and cost.
I guess that can be true but not if it has a European Certificate of Conformity, which my UK car did, and I had no problem with the MFK or servicing. It's the same car Europe wide, steering wheel and lights aside.

I think there's less price differential between domestic and import now, certainly on newer vehicles with a good service history.
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The difference would be the specification for the country for which the vehicle is originally intended,
In which case, it's not the same exact vehicle.

However, as CH has been using EU specs for years now, I would expect no differences in most cases. Of course, vehicles from NA are another matter.

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I guess that can be true but not if it has a European Certificate of Conformity, which my UK car did, and I had no problem with the MFK or servicing. It's the same car Europe wide, steering wheel and lights aside.

I think there's less price differential between domestic and import now, certainly on newer vehicles with a good service history.
Not quite on topic but import related, but in short.... NO, and here is why. I had a UK spec Mitsubishi L200 Pickup, with full Euro MAC conformity which is the equivalent of a C.o.C for commercial vehicles., which had successfully been previously imported by me to France with out issue The particulate spec/trim was not available here or France, but was in Germany strangely. Anyway, after a prang the car was down valued by 30% by the insurer as an import, further the front end body panels, steering rack, and something else which escapes me, were different to the model sold here, so the Mitsubishi garage quote a ridiculous price for those parts including the carriage and charge from Japan, + storage until the parts arrived and that was almost 5 weeks adding that to the bill. So the monstrous bill and lower value meant that the car was written off.



Just because a car/bike passes it's MFK does not mean it's Swiss spec
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the front end body panels, steering rack, and something else which escapes me, were different to the model sold here
Hardly surprising the steering rack and some front end bits were different given it was from the UK.

Yes, RHD cars here would not fetch the same money. But a newish car imported from Germany? Why would there be a price difference?

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Just because a car/bike passes it's MFK does not mean it's Swiss spec
There was no Swiss spec for my car, even though it was sold here. There were no differences between one sold here and one sold in Germany. I suspect there aren't for many cars. It was European spec.

I also bought a car here direct from BMW - European spec. I sold it for market price, not discounted. I asked at the time I bought it, was it any different to a Swiss car? Would I get less when I sold it? The answer to both questions was no.

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However, as CH has been using EU specs for years now, I would expect no differences in most cases.
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Talk of new vehicles is irrelevant really as this is an older vehicle of lower value, and perish the thought a dealer would tell you a porky, wait till you actually pull up on a forecourt to part ex as see what the change price is then. I ACTUALLY went to trade my French Laguna for a new one last year with the garage that services it and did the prep' for it's MFK, and was ACTUALLY offered CHF 2,500 less on trade in against a new Renault and the reason was that it was an import.

So from a resale point of view and an spare point of view I can actually say, an import does leave you open. Split hairs and nit pick all you want guy' and do throw more "I think's" in , it appears you like it. Which is of course no help to the op who simply wanted to know about importing his UK bike, and just de-railing his thread
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Split hairs and nit pick all you want guy' and do throw more "I think's" in , it appears you like it. Which is of course no help to the op who simply wanted to know about importing his UK bike, and just de-railing his thread
You're moralising about de-railing a thread? Who started the de-railing....

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Maybe you should quit while you're behind.
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Re: Bringing a UK Motorbike to Switzerland

Hi,

I've been given details of a UK based insurance company that will cover me for living abroad (Switzerland), thanks to kevlegs.

I'm under the impression that import taxes will not apply if you've owned the bike for more then 6 months. So I'm guessing it should all be smooth sailing to bring the bike over.

Will call the insurance company on monday to hopefully sort it all out.

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Hi,

I've been given details of a UK based insurance company that will cover me for living abroad (Switzerland), thanks to kevlegs.

I'm under the impression that import taxes will not apply if you've owned the bike for more then 6 months. So I'm guessing it should all be smooth sailing to bring the bike over.

Will call the insurance company on monday to hopefully sort it all out.

Jazz
Glad you got hold of Kev, he's also been through it fairly recently as have, both with cars though.

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Practicalities against theory, I've imported 4 times to 2 countries and the last time was 9 months ago. 3 plain sailing 1 nightmare... been there and done it. The paperwork is easy, the living with not always so. But when you've done with the rose tints pass them along
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