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Re: Great driving routes

Susten Pass- those were the days, ahaha. My parents had just bought their first car, one of the early model of the 2CV, in the mid 50s. No 'elf and safty' these days. We did the Susten at a crawling pace, roof opened and my brother and I standing on the back seat, holding on to the middle roof bar - waving to all the other cars over-taking. Brilliant.
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Ah. You start from Valais.
Drive to Gletsch, go over Furka, at Hospental before Andermatt the road goes up to the Gotthard Pass. When you come down in Ticino, take the Nufenen Pass back to Valais, and you come down in Ulrichen.

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Nopee. plans change, and we stay in lauterbrunnen.,
We are arriving from Innsbruck(7am start)
Our chalet will be ready after 4, so lots of time to kill, moreover, we want to drive the whole day, enjoying the countryside.
Here is the route we made(furka+grimsel only this time)
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=In...5BQ&mra=ls&z=8
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Re: Great driving routes

well, coming over stelvio and umbrail, adding more passes might be overkill, but, still, between davos and disentis, it might be good to go through 'San Bernardino' (Mesocco) and Lukmanier Pass, also, possibly avoiding some high way traffic?


man, why is it raining all the time.. i wanna do the south east passes, too
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Re: Great driving routes

Susten followed by Grimsel up to the glacier then back down to Gletch and keep going to the Nufenen - a brilliant drive!. The Furka is too narrow and bumpy.

There's a wonderful long climbing twisty road out of L'Aigle near Montreux - Route des Ormonts?

Since eyebeebee started it, here's some gratuitous top-off-pass photography
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Cool, maybe we can meet sometime up there and switch cars
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Since eyebeebee started it, here's some gratuitous top-off-pass photography
When do you get the FF and Huyera?
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Funny you should say that



(that was another nice driving route, through Allenwinden, up the hill to Edlibach, back road into Baar)
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Re: Great driving routes

Dont know if there is any sence in waking up an old Thread. but anyway - here goes..



Spring is comming, and I am planning to do some driving in the mountains.


I have been on the Furka Pass as a passenger in a Lotus Elise, that was great fun. I been driving around on my own in the Schwartz zee - gürnigel area in my own car, also loads of fun. Nice to read about alternative places to go.


How are you guys experiense on Cameras/Radar on the mountain roads?
Are the cops lurking around in the bushes?
For sure there is alwas a risk, and im not planning to do any crasy/ headless driving. I just sometimes find my self super tense and focused on speed limits since here in Switzerland there are a lot of control compared to Danish standarts.
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Re: Great driving routes

Weekends tend to see me a greater police presence - with radar more often found on the lower more open sections - when drivers/riders get excitable and can easily clock over the limit.

The top-end twisty stuff is self limiting - you won't carry over 80kmh through a hairpin - unless you are looking to go straight on, through the barrier and tumble down the mountainside and end up in a fireball taking out Daisy and her cousins!!!

That doesn't mean you can drive like an idiot - if you do - you may get pulled over for an open wallet discussion on driving standards - watch for solid white lines - and should you wish to take a calculated risk in breaking road rules accept that it is not risk free.

IMHO the best driving is before 11am - as that is when the camper vans tend to have packed up from site, folded their mirrors in and headed up for a 10kmh pootle along the passes.
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Weekends tend to see me a greater police presence - with radar more often found on the lower more open sections - when drivers/riders get excitable and can easily clock over the limit.

The top-end twisty stuff is self limiting - you won't carry over 80kmh through a hairpin - unless you are looking to go straight on, through the barrier and tumble down the mountainside and end up in a fireball taking out Daisy and her cousins!!!

That doesn't mean you can drive like an idiot - if you do - you may get pulled over for an open wallet discussion on driving standards - watch for solid white lines - and should you wish to take a calculated risk in breaking road rules accept that it is not risk free.

IMHO the best driving is before 11am - as that is when the camper vans tend to have packed up from site, folded their mirrors in and headed up for a 10kmh pootle along the passes.

Thank you for your reply. you are perfectly right about the twisties, one won't make it much higher than 80 anyway. And the part about going early also makes sence.


Wonder if there was ever arranged a EF drive?
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It is illegal to warn others about a police check up point, around 1000 CHF
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Re: Great driving routes

No guarantees, but in general the smaller the pass (in the sense of space at the side of the road) the less likely a flying radar is. Only very rarely at night too.


My all time favorite is the Stelvio. Must have driven it 10 times, mostly in classic cars, it never gets old.


To me, a really good pass is one where you don't feel the need to go faster than the speed limit, because in fact it is fairly difficult to stay at it.
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To me, a really good pass is one where you don't feel the need to go faster than the speed limit, because in fact it is fairly difficult to stay at it.

I'd agree with that - you can actually really enjoy the passes in not particularly powerful cars.

It's a good arm-workout without power steering too!
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I'd agree with that - you can actually really enjoy the passes in not particularly powerful cars.

It's a good arm-workout without power steering too!

The last time I did the Stelvio it was at night, with an old high school friend who now lives in Nashville. We were in an OTS E Type. The nose on the E goes on forever, so on a switchback you have to either cross the line, or kick the rear out. He was so uncomfortable (and distracting) that if the trunk had been big enough I would have locked him in it!



Eventually he settled down and even drove a couple of passes himself - good thing as it was a night rally with 15 passes on a single full moon night.
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I would deffenatly want to drive the Stelvio pass. I cant wait for spring to come


Sounds like I just have to loosen up, and enjoy my driving on the twisties.
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I would deffenatly want to drive the Stelvio pass. I cant wait for spring to come


Sounds like I just have to loosen up, and enjoy my driving on the twisties.


In spite of being anything other than a timid driver, it did take me a few years to really get used to driving in 3 dimensions. Southern Ontario (where I grew up) is flat in comparison to here (as are the bits of DK that I have driven). Once you learn to integrate the 3rd dimension instinctively you are more relaxed. A twisty that goes up and down is immensely more fun.
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In spite of being anything other than a timid driver, it did take me a few years to really get used to driving in 3 dimensions. Southern Ontario (where I grew up) is flat in comparison to here (as are the bits of DK that I have driven). Once you learn to integrate the 3rd dimension instinctively you are more relaxed. A twisty that goes up and down is immensely more fun.

Indeed all of denmark is very flat. I beleive the highest peak we have in DK is around 120meters above sea.



I do enjoy the 3D drives here it is great fun, but can indeed take some getting used to. but its fun learning on the go.
I had a few runs on sime twisties here already, hoping to upgrade my car on the go to something that handles the smalle/ narrow roads better. Used to drive Alfas back in DK now for the first time own a BMW.
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I would deffenatly want to drive the Stelvio pass. I cant wait for spring to come


Sounds like I just have to loosen up, and enjoy my driving on the twisties.
You'll need to wait a bit longer than spring ime. Likely June before all of the high passes are open.
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You'll need to wait a bit longer than spring ime. Likely June before all of the high passes are open.

Good point - Got carried away for a moment.
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Indeed all of denmark is very flat. I beleive the highest peak we have in DK is around 120meters above sea.



I do enjoy the 3D drives here it is great fun, but can indeed take some getting used to. but its fun learning on the go.
I had a few runs on sime twisties here already, hoping to upgrade my car on the go to something that handles the smalle/ narrow roads better. Used to drive Alfas back in DK now for the first time own a BMW.

Just so that it has been said (thinking of another thread from today): If you want to go fast (i.e. exceed the speed limit, or weather conditions) please don't. Not only is it a risk to yourself and others, it also gets very expensive very fast.

If you want to go fast, book some track time (France isn't far, nor is it all that expensive). On a track everyone is going in the same direction, and are there to go fast AND you really can put the boot in. Once you've done some track time at the limit, going fast on a public road becomes uninteresting.
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