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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

Hello


Thanks for this great post.

You said that "you pay 4% of the purchase price (without VAT) and then another 8%". Can you tell me if the 8% is based on your purchase price or the "swiss" value of the car?

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Hello


Thanks for this great post.

You said that "you pay 4% of the purchase price (without VAT) and then another 8%". Can you tell me if the 8% is based on your purchase price or the "swiss" value of the car?

thanks again
Anwar
Purchase price of the car, in euros. Of course.
But if you buy the car from someone, for example, and you try to sneak the price they can decide to apply the Swiss price.
The swiss price being based on a estimation tool used by car dealers for the make, model, km, accessories, etc... It will very likely to be much higher than your price in Euros.

Example:
You buy car from dealer germany, 14000euros.
The 8% will be 1120 Euros. To pay the conversion in CHF=1239chf.

But you buy the car from Bob your mate. Same car which would worth 14000euros in the shop. You try to pretend you bought it for 1000euros.
They will check the value in Switzerland and they will see: similar car is actually 18 500 Swiss francs (16 709.8246 Euros). They will charge you 8% of that= 1480CHF (1336euros).

So be reasonable in your "purchase price" if you got it from a private seller.
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

Thanks for your answers and this post.


So, some of us may be trying to find out if it is worth importing a car from Germany. Is there a rule the zoll follow to apply the duty? What if I buy a car from a German dealer that is 20-30% less expensive than Switzerland? Will they believe the dealer invoice or base the duty on the Swiss price?
Of course, they want to make money, so it wouldn't be hard to believe if they use the Swiss price whenever they can.


thanks again for your answer.
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

I bought a motorcycle in Italy directly from the manufacturer, at a price 60% less than the official Swiss price, and paid VAT based on the invoice.

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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

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Thanks for your answers and this post.


So, some of us may be trying to find out if it is worth importing a car from Germany. Is there a rule the zoll follow to apply the duty? What if I buy a car from a German dealer that is 20-30% less expensive than Switzerland? Will they believe the dealer invoice or base the duty on the Swiss price?
Of course, they want to make money, so it wouldn't be hard to believe if they use the Swiss price whenever they can.


thanks again for your answer.
anwar
If it's from a dealer it's an "official purchase in an EU country". They won't question that. You will have an official receipt, etc...

Don't worry about "they want to make money" they have made a lot of administration tasks to prevent people buying a car abroad.

And you will have quite a few admin fees to pay, delays, etc...
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

thanks for the tips.....It looks like I will be doing some 'shopping' in Germany pretty soon.


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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

bobo 97, thanks for your useful post. we will shortly be importing our car from UK to Switzerland. gruzi
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

Thanks for your post, exactly the info I've been looking for. I have a question on the taxable amount, did you pay the 4% and 8% on the Net amount or Gross amount of the Invoice? i.e. if invoice including VAT (Gross price) from Dealer is 20,900 Euros, did you pay taxes on the Gross price or the net price of 17,563 Euros ?

Also any hassles with the inspection, anything one should look out for?

I'm looking at getting a 2007 -2008 model car, hence the questions.
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

hi,

I had no probs at the inspection - took 5 minutes and done (the only problem was to get the appointment as I wrote above).

All the best
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

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Thanks for your post, exactly the info I've been looking for. I have a question on the taxable amount, did you pay the 4% and 8% on the Net amount or Gross amount of the Invoice? i.e. if invoice including VAT (Gross price) from Dealer is 20,900 Euros, did you pay taxes on the Gross price or the net price of 17,563 Euros ?

Also any hassles with the inspection, anything one should look out for?

I'm looking at getting a 2007 -2008 model car, hence the questions.
If the price EX VAT is quoted yes, if only a price inc VAT then no as the VAT on second hand vehicles is often on the mark up only.
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

im in the process of importing also (older car) inspection should be this week. I think the gas test is after but I am really not sure....

btw I paid around 21% JUST at the customs to import the car. I was told it was 12% (8+4%)? I found that very high actually. Still got the dutch plates and insurance until the test


Now i just hope it passes inspection
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

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im in the process of importing also (older car) inspection should be this week. I think the gas test is after but I am really not sure....

btw I paid around 21% JUST at the customs to import the car. I was told it was 12% (8+4%)? I found that very high actually. Still got the dutch plates and insurance until the test


Now i just hope it passes inspection
What does the paperwork say ??

The amounts should be itemized by line (i.e. duty, VAT etc.) on the receipt you got from Customs.

Please list the items/amounts so people can have a look.
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

well I had the expeditor fill out the paperwork, could do it myself but im certain I would have made mistakes (80chf)
then I told them I bought the car for 3000 euros (3400 chf they calculated (didnt actually pay anything but had to put a price on it....)

doesnt actually say what I paid for
but I paid 726.55 (+80chf)

726.55/3400=0.21---->21%

btw it is a bmw 525 d 2001 that I got from my sis. car has 240k on it but has been in my family since new so I know the km are well taken care of ones.
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well I had the expeditor fill out the paperwork, could do it myself but im certain I would have made mistakes (80chf)
then I told them I bought the car for 3000 euros (3400 chf they calculated (didnt actually pay anything but had to put a price on it....)

doesnt actually say what I paid for
but I paid 726.55 (+80chf)

726.55/3400=0.21---->21%

btw it is a bmw 525 d 2001 that I got from my sis. car has 240k on it but has been in my family since new so I know the km are well taken care of ones.
Well... Then they screwed you and took a percentage out of the transaction
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Old 08.08.2011, 11:42
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Well... Then they screwed you and took a percentage out of the transaction
you think they did. to late to go back? (or am I missing your sarcasm here )
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

I would go back and ask for details.

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you think they did. to late to go back? (or am I missing your sarcasm here )
Well it's not magical:
It's official VAT rates from 2 countries.
Here's it's officially 8% and 4% import duty:

Look for form 1710:

There's no sarcasm from me but an obvious fact: looks like they screwed you (maybe they add their own fees in between, etc...)


There's some weird link in the official swiss website:
http://xtares.admin.ch/tares/home/ho...4V!-852897854?

Try to look here:
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=en
and navigate trhough links

Automobile duty
The importation of cars and certain delivery vans as well as minibuses is subject to the automobile duty. The rate amounts to 4% of the vehicle's value (including customs duties, excluding VAT).
Motorbikes are not subject to the automobile duty.

Fees: Inspection report form 13.20A
Registration at the cantonal vehicle licensing office (motor vehicle test centre) is possible only with an inspection report form 13.20A stamped by Swiss Customs. You will receive this from us at the time of assessment; it costs CHF 20.

Value added tax on imports
The VAT for vehicles amounts to 8% of the calculation basis.

The calculation basis generally comprises the consideration already or to be paid for the vehicle. The invoice and/or contract of sale forms the basis. In certain cases, the vehicle's market value is taken into account (e.g. in the case of a gift). The market value corresponds to the sum that another buyer would have had to pay for the item.

The costs up to the destination in Switzerland as well as customs duties, the automobile duty and all fees are added to this value.
The foreign VAT can be subtracted from the value of the item provided it is indicated by the seller on the invoice/receipt.

Value details in foreign currencies are converted into Swiss francs using the exchange rate (forex sell rate) listed on the last trading day before the import tax liability arises (generally the preceding day). Exchange rates (sell).


Maybe you did not had any "EUR1" form and they added the cost for the weight of the vehicle?
Customs duty rates
The rates of duty are the same for used and new vehicles. Depending on the cylinder capacity and weight of the vehicle in running order, they range from CHF 12 to CHF 15 per 100 kg gross weight for cars.
For motorbikes, the rate is CHF 37 per 100 kg gross weight.


It's only if you dont have EUR1... maybe that's what they charged you.
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Re: My experience importing a car from germany to switzerland....

mmm i'm heading up to Basel again soon and will ask them for an explanation.... would be interesting to see what they will do if they indeed tried to screw me over.....
got to go do the MFK today and am a bit worried as I know one or 2 things are wrong with the car....
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got to go do the MFK today and am a bit worried as I know one or 2 things are wrong with the car....
Such as?

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nothing it passed with flying colors. he didnt really test anything though? none of suspension tests etc etc. was out of there within 10 min
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