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Flight with 2 babies, starting to freak out!

So how do you do it? have you ever done it?
Im going to travel making 3 conections starting in Zurich and destination Mexico Paradise. The situation is that I have to travel with 2 babies and the almost 2 years old will have his own seat and Im supposed to bring a car seat for him, I am trying to avoid bringing the car seat by using this, someone is making me the favor of buying in UK and bring it this week...but Im not even sure if the airline is going to let me use it, when I called customer care they said they will not allow it on the flight because my kid is not yet 2 years old, even tho' this belt is for babies from 10kg and my son is more than 10kg (and one month away from being 2). So I found on internet couple of comments from people who has use it in Air France, but I still dont know if someone has use it with Aeromexico (Im using both airlines) and the only thing I have is this to try to convince them Its allowed. If they accept the belt, and they do take my stroller in zh and give it back until final destination then I will be walking holding the hand of my 23mo old and carry my 9 mo old with a baby björ, so far its difficult but doable. But if they overall do not accept the belt, will I have to carry also a car seat? Have any of you any experience on this?
thanks in advance for any suggestion. I thought on buying the adapters for maxi cosi on my stroller, but then i was told in the airport than i will not count on my stroller for conections
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So how do you do it? have you ever done it?
Im going to travel making 3 conections starting in Zurich and destination Mexico Paradise. The situation is that I have to travel with 2 babies and the almost 2 years old will have his own seat and Im supposed to bring a car seat for him, I am trying to avoid bringing the car seat by using this, someone is making me the favor of buying in UK and bring it this week...but Im not even sure if the airline is going to let me use it, when I called customer care they said they will not allow it on the flight because my kid is not yet 2 years old, even tho' this belt is for babies from 10kg and my son is more than 10kg (and one month away from being 2). So I found on internet couple of comments from people who has use it in Air France, but I still dont know if someone has use it with Aeromexico (Im using both airlines) and the only thing I have is this to try to convince them Its allowed. If they accept the belt, and they do take my stroller in zh and give it back until final destination then I will be walking holding the hand of my 23mo old and carry my 9 mo old with a baby björ, so far its difficult but doable. But if they overall do not accept the belt, will I have to carry also a car seat? Have any of you any experience on this?
thanks in advance for any suggestion. I thought on buying the adapters for maxi cosi on my stroller, but then i was told in the airport than i will not count on my stroller for conections
No, you should have your stroller, I usually travel with all kind of companies and I always had my stroller with me. They take it at the plane's door and give it back to me when I get out of the plane.

Don't accept anything else than that!
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Old 22.08.2011, 09:32
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No, you should have your stroller, I usually travel with all kind of companies and I always had my stroller with me. They take it at the plane's door and give it back to me when I get out of the plane.

Don't accept anything else than that!
That would be wonderful, but even las time i traveled I was 7 months pregnant with baby2 and baby 1 was not walking, I gave all kind of reasons (as if that belly and the baby in the arms was not enough) and they still took the stroller How did you do it?
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Re: Flight with 2 babies, starting to freak out!

Does your 2 year old have his own seat on the plane? Otherwise, how does the airline expect him to sit? I think it is part of the safety rule that infants must be fastened to an adult when the seat belt sign is on.


I think most important for you is to ask the airline for assistance, i.e., someone to assist you through the transits. They usually do it for passengers who need a wheelchair, so why not an adult travelling with 2 babies (I have seen this with Singapore Airlines, but of course, other airlines are probably not in the same league).
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That would be wonderful, but even las time i traveled I was 7 months pregnant with baby2 and baby 1 was not walking, I gave all kind of reasons (as if that belly and the baby in the arms was not enough) and they still took the stroller How did you do it?
When we check in, we never give the stroller. They put a tag on it and we keep it up to the plane's door.

Maybe it is a Air France policy? I never travel with them, ever again. I hate CDG.
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Old 22.08.2011, 09:45
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Does your 2 year old have his own seat on the plane? Otherwise, how does the airline expect him to sit? I think it is part of the safety rule that infants must be fastened to an adult when the seat belt sign is on.


I think most important for you is to ask the airline for assistance, i.e., someone to assist you through the transits. They usually do it for passengers who need a wheelchair, so why not an adult travelling with 2 babies (I have seen this with Singapore Airlines, but of course, other airlines are probably not in the same league).
Yes ones seat for me and baby 1 on lap for takeoff landing, and baby2 with own seat. And yes, they help but very little, not for lack of consideration, but because its international flight and they have tons of things to do. Thanks axman

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When we check in, we never give the stroller. They put a tag on it and we keep it up to the plane's door.

Maybe it is a Air France policy? I never travel with them, ever again. I hate CDG.
Yes, I also dont give the stroller at check in, but at the gate of the plane they ask for it and say they will give it back, then when i ask for it again they said it will be returned until final destination (that was the first time), the second time (when I was pregnant with baby2) I asked clearly if the stroller will be available, no "please" will do and it was airberlin, delta, continental. I'll try then with airfrance. thanks Nil
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Old 22.08.2011, 09:49
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I think most important for you is to ask the airline for assistance, i.e., someone to assist you through the transits. They usually do it for passengers who need a wheelchair, so why not an adult travelling with 2 babies (I have seen this with Singapore Airlines, but of course, other airlines are probably not in the same league).
(my emphasis)
Unfortunately, OP is on Air France. Unless she speaks really really good French, the service she experiences will not be anywhere near what you get with Singapore Airlines. Even if she does, it will be patchy. So OP will need to push, push, push very hard for the stroller to be gate-checked.

I hate myself for saying this, but it really helps in these situations if the kids are crying. Then again, you can't (and shouldn't) engineer this, so if they cry, they're actually in distress, which means that you are as well
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Re: Flight with 2 babies, starting to freak out!

We used a Quinny Zapp. It comes with a carrier bag which makes it small enough to take on as hand luggage. That way we had little one in a Maxi Cosi at all times, including strapping the Maxi Cosi in as a seat for him to fly in and meant we could have our stroller with us at all times.

Worked brilliantly.

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No, you should have your stroller, I usually travel with all kind of companies and I always had my stroller with me. They take it at the plane's door and give it back to me when I get out of the plane.

Don't accept anything else than that!
They wont let you do it if you have a layover in Paris etc. We always have that issue Some airlines are fine with it and others are not.
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Re: Flight with 2 babies, starting to freak out!

Air Berlin is one of the airlines I found that didn't let you have the stroller back when you disembark. You only get it back with the rest of your luggage.

Air France's website says you can bring your stroller.

http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common..._airfrance.htm
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(my emphasis)
Unfortunately, OP is on Air France. Unless she speaks really really good French, the service she experiences will not be anywhere near what you get with Singapore Airlines. Even if she does, it will be patchy. So OP will need to push, push, push very hard for the stroller to be gate-checked.

I hate myself for saying this, but it really helps in these situations if the kids are crying. Then again, you can't (and shouldn't) engineer this, so if they cry, they're actually in distress, which means that you are as well
Air france is not the long trip "Thank All Mighty Lord" its just to get me to CDG and take Aeromexico for the rest of the flight which I do love! and I speak spanish and they are adorably helpful. But still dont know if i should bring the car seat (which I though I had but now i dont) or if Aeromexico will let me use the CARES harness belt.


Air France is still an option, Can someone feedback KLM? that is the other option from here to paris. the tickets will be bought today in the afternoon.
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Air France is still an option, Can someone feedback KLM? that is the other option from here to paris. the tickets will be bought today in the afternoon.
Thanks in advance.
KLM will either be via Amsterdam (so another transfer) or a codeshare flight on AF metal.
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They wont let you do it if you have a layover in Paris etc. We always have that issue Some airlines are fine with it and others are not.
And this is an other reason why I don't fly to CDG.

That place is hell on earth...
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Re: Flight with 2 babies, starting to freak out!

Have you thought of asking another passenger for help?
Someone travelling on their own, not to obviously well-dressed for an important business meeting, maybe a middle-aged lady who has been through it herself.
I travel on my own all the time and always try to help if I see someone struggling with children and baggage, and I would absolutely never mind being asked.
Maybe worth a try, and they can always say 'no'.
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No, you should have your stroller, I usually travel with all kind of companies and I always had my stroller with me. They take it at the plane's door and give it back to me when I get out of the plane.

Don't accept anything else than that!
well hopefully they do - I just travelled back with sleazyjet last night and left my buggy at the gate but they kindly decided that they'd return my buggy to the bulky items belt! so had to carry my not so small anymore baby all the way back to bagage and we arrived t the terminal that needs the little train back to the main building - I wasn't best pleased
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Have you thought of asking another passenger for help?
Someone travelling on their own, not to obviously well-dressed for an important business meeting, maybe a middle-aged lady who has been through it herself.
I travel on my own all the time and always try to help if I see someone struggling with children and baggage, and I would absolutely never mind being asked.
Maybe worth a try, and they can always say 'no'.
Agreed. I know that you perhaps don't want to be a "burden" on other passengers, but it doesn't hurt to ask. I was asked to help on the last flight I went on, and was more than happy to oblige. I'd like to think most people would do the same.
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Re: Flight with 2 babies, starting to freak out!

I find it challenging to travel alone with one child. Best of luck for travels with two!

If you decide to take your carseat on the plane, there are several wheely car seat carriers that you can attach to the car seat. This way you can roll it through the airport with your 2 year old sitting down.

These are some of the links from amazon.com. I searched for travel+carseat+airport

http://www.amazon.com/Traveling-Todd...4002720&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Go-Go-Babyz-QR...4002720&sr=8-5
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Agreed. I know that you perhaps don't want to be a "burden" on other passengers, but it doesn't hurt to ask. I was asked to help on the last flight I went on, and was more than happy to oblige. I'd like to think most people would do the same.
What were you asked to do? Change a nappy?
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What were you asked to do? Change a nappy?
No, although I wouldn't have a problem with a person if they asked first.
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Re: Flight with 2 babies, starting to freak out!

Apart from the logistics of transport, I suggest you pack some crayons and small colouring books in your hand luggage to keep them occupied during the flight. Or perhaps some small hand-games.

I also charge up my iPhone to max and have a few games installed on it. Handing a toddler an iPhone to play with works wonders in keeping them quiet and occupied.

Also take some chewable sweets in case they experience pain in the ears as the plane descends.

You might also want to alter the sleep schedule on the day before the flight, so that they are more likely to fall asleep in-flight. Tho, be warned that if they don't fall asleep, you'l have a grumpy tired todller on your hands.
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