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Buying Rims and Tyres abroad

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I need to get a set of 4 new rims with Winter tyres soon and I have been getting quotes from several garages. Most of them quoted me between CHF 1400 and 1500 for 16“ Alloys with a good brand of Winter tyres.
I also had a look online and it seems there are several sites offering the same for much less (up to CHF 500).

http://www.123reifen.ch/de/

http://www.reifen-pneus-online.ch

Or the only real Swiss based one:

http://www.e-pneu.ch


Question is has anyone bought from them in the past and how does it work with the Certificate that you need to have with these Rims?
I asked their customer service and they confirmed that the rims would only come with a German „Gutachten“ but they weren’t sure either if that could be used in Switzerland.

This also leads me to my second question. Do you really need to get the rims registred in your vehicle registration book?
I know that you need to get them registered if they are not the same make and model as written in the „Typengenehmigung“ which is ususally the make and brand of the car you’re driving.

Does the police really check for these things?

Maybe some of you car buffs can enlighten me on this bureaucratic idiocy
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Old 06.09.2011, 12:29
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This also leads me to my second question. Do you really need to get the rims registred in your vehicle registration book?
I know that you need to get them registered if they are not the same make and model as written in the „Typengenehmigung“ which is ususally the make and brand of the car you’re driving.

Does the police really check for these things?

Maybe some of you car buffs can enlighten me on this bureaucratic idiocy

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Old 06.09.2011, 12:31
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Re: Buying Rims and Tyres abroad

on the same topic I need some rims and winter tyres for a bmw mini, anyone got any recommendations mini want silly money, somewhere close to zurich would be good, germany, austria, france etc
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Re: Buying Rims and Tyres abroad

I really would not bother importing rims, it's a pain in the rear! You have to have certification for everything on the car and as BB2 says the cops do check this at a control. If you import rims you will have to get them checked and certified!

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Weirdly enough I only found out after driving around for more than 2 years with my old set of alloys. Never got the registered when I bought them new at Pneu Egger. I thought the certificate is only a thing they give you with the alloys when you buy them new.

I only found out after looking for new ones. Someone I spoke to said to me when the police checks to tell them that you only fitted them 2 days ago and you didn’t get round to going tot he Strassenverkehrsamt yet ( I think you have 2 weeks). Don’t know if that works…

Maybe I was just lucky but then I’m only driving a bog standard Opel Estate so the Police maybe rather checks tuned Sports cars?

How does this work in practice do I have to go tot he Strassenverkehrsamt and just give them the certificate and they issue me a new Vehicle Registration booklet?
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and pay a fee of course
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I really would not bother importing rims, it's a pain in the rear! You have to have certification for everything on the car and as BB2 says the cops do check this at a control. If you import rims you will have to get them checked and certified!
Ok good point. What about sites like E-Pneu (http://www.e-pneu.ch)?

They seem to be Swiss based (slightly more expensive) but send you the alloys with a Swiss certificate. For the same price the garage has offered me 16" Alloys with Dunlop 3D Winter Tyres E-Pneu would offer me 17" alloys with the same tyres (completely prepared to fit).
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60 Swissies I believe but I don't have to get it inspected right?
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Old 06.09.2011, 13:05
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Re: Buying Rims and Tyres abroad

I ran 17" Volvo wheels on a Volvo - which weren't original equipment - nor available on the option list when new. BUT they were VOLVO alloy wheels.

Meanwhile - how I got away with a Tarox 6-pot kit on the front of my Z4 for so long was beyond me.
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Re: Buying Rims and Tyres abroad

People do stupid things for the sake of bling, or even worse, are being stupidly miserly. There are very sane and solid reasons for the regulations and controls.

Here is a link to most of the CH rim importers, and often they have the Typenschein PDF for each rim model. Hope this helps.

http://www.felgenportal.ch/index.php...orteure-felgen
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Re: Buying Rims and Tyres abroad

Wow! I have NEVER heard of this before. My last car had non-standard winter rims that I bought from Euromaster. I ran it for four years like that..

I've never once been stopped by a police control, just as well I guess..

Does anyone have a link to where this regulation is mentioned? En Français if possible...
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Re: Buying Rims and Tyres abroad

have a look on anibis.ch

many times nearly new , used or actual new rims for a fraction of the price. there is an incredible amount of deals on there.
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Wow! I have NEVER heard of this before. My last car had non-standard winter rims that I bought from Euromaster. I ran it for four years like that..

I've never once been stopped by a police control, just as well I guess..

Does anyone have a link to where this regulation is mentioned? En Français if possible...
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Wow! I have NEVER heard of this before. My last car had non-standard winter rims that I bought from Euromaster. I ran it for four years like that..

I've never once been stopped by a police control, just as well I guess..

Does anyone have a link to where this regulation is mentioned? En Français if possible...

This is from the VD SAN website (link below). It outlines what needs to be done if you have "non-standard" rims. The third case would be the one applicable if you have imported rims yourself. In a few words, they want to check them out before you are legally allowed to put them on the car. You will need the SAN paperwork if you are stopped by the Police (or else !).

Changement de jantes


Trois cas de figure peuvent se présenter :
Les jantes en question sont spécifiées sur la fiche d'homologation / réception de votre véhicule

Dans cette situation, il ne s'agit pas d'une modification technique, donc pas d'annonce à l'autorité d'immatriculation, pas besoin de présenter le véhicule au SAN et pas d'annexe au permis de circulation.
Vous possédez une feuille asa pour les jantes

Cette situation se traite uniquement de manière administrative. La feuille asa doit être validée par notre Service. Il n'y a pas d'inspection complémentaire du véhicule et pas d'annexe au permis de circulation. La feuille asa doit pouvoir en tout temps être présentée avec le permis de circulation.
Vous possédez uniquement un certificat pour jantes délivré par le fournisseur de celles-ci

Cette situation nécessite la prise d'un rendez-vous pour modification technique. Le véhicule doit donc être présenté afin de procéder à différents contrôles (identification des jantes, vérification du déport et des espaces libres en charge, recouvrement de la bande de roulement, etc.). Une annexe au permis de circulation est ensuite établie.



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I have bought my winter tyres at reifendirekt.ch . they have pretty good deals
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have a look on anibis.ch

many times nearly new , used or actual new rims for a fraction of the price. there is an incredible amount of deals on there.

I'd be very wary of buying used wheels from anyone I didn't know, almost as bad as buying a 2nd hand crash helmet
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Re: Buying Rims and Tyres abroad

Good thread, I've just been looking at VW alloy wheels and winter tyres for my Golf R32.

German VW website quote around 1,756 (or 1,460 Euro).

Switzerland VW website quote around 2,600chf.

Local Swiss VW quote is almost 4,000chf for 4 wheels and tyres - like really nice mark up?
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I'd be very wary of buying used wheels from anyone I didn't know, almost as bad as buying a 2nd hand crash helmet

i have had no bad luck so far only good deals....
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Re: Buying Rims and Tyres abroad

WelshBoyo: Is it a Mk IV or V? I had a Mk IV and it was much cheaper to buy 17" wheels and (slightly) higher profile winter tyres as the 18" winter tyres were so expensive..
I had to be very sure, however, that the wheels I chose didn't foul the brake calipers... The guys at Euromaster were very helpful - especially as at that time my French was very poor...


I settled on these:
http://www.topgear.co.uk/acatalog/17...and_tyres.html
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Re: Buying Rims and Tyres abroad

I have now checked with http://www.reifen-pneus-online.ch

customer service and they confirm that they would issue a Swiss "Zulassungszertifikat" since they are Swiss based.

Prices look pretty good too.

They have fitting partners all over Switzerland as well so now I'm really undecided if I should place an order with them or go to my garage and pay CHF 400 more but with the added safety of having someone round the corner.
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