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Rules For Transporting Chilldren In Car

In CH, how old does a child have to be before they can sit in a car without a car/booster seat. Are there any rules on a child sitting in the front seat of a car?

Any info would be appreciated.
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Re: Rules For Transporting Chilldren In Car

Children under 7 should be in a car seat:

http://www.ch.ch/private/00081/00083...x.html?lang=en

And some more info here:

Children Car Seat Laws in Switzerland
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Re: Rules For Transporting Chilldren In Car

Most kids should sit in a booster seat until they are 4'9" tall and between 8 to 12 years old.
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Re: Rules For Transporting Chilldren In Car

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Most kids should sit in a booster seat until they are 4'9" tall and between 8 to 12 years old.
Not a very helpful turn of phrase when someone is asking about a rule of law.
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Re: Rules For Transporting Chilldren In Car

Amazingly here in Wonga Bonga I can type into the search box [Children Car] and I receive this information,

http://www.englishforum.ch/transport...il-2010-a.html
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Not a very helpful turn of phrase when someone is asking about a rule of law.
Ow Sorry. I thought the purpose of the Forum was to post a response which nearly answered the question.
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Re: Rules For Transporting Chilldren In Car

Amazingly here in EF I can type into the search box [Children Seat] and I receive this information: Car seats for children - law change 1 April 2010
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Re: Rules For Transporting Chilldren In Car

I remember the limit was set to 12 years (as mentioned earlier).

Last year there was a lot discussion if e.g. the taxis could be excluded. The officials said clearly that everyone under 12 years must travel in a child seat.
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Re: Rules For Transporting Chilldren In Car

Does anyone know what the laws are here regarding having a newborn baby in the front seat (in an infant car seat, of course). I know you're supposed to have the air-bags turned off if you do that, but I was wondering if there are any laws about it here?

Also, is it correct that I should have the infant car seat always positioned backwards, so that the baby would be facing toward the back of the car?

(Sorry... This will be my first baby and I have no idea about any of this!)
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Old 08.09.2011, 14:04
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Does anyone know what the laws are here regarding having a newborn baby in the front seat (in an infant car seat, of course). I know you're supposed to have the air-bags turned off if you do that, but I was wondering if there are any laws about it here?
No law. (what would you do in a Smart car?).

To be honest, better to put the baby in the back as he will be a real distraction to you in the seat next to you whilst you are driving.
If he's in the back and starts doing something odd then you'll have to stop to check -which is what you should do.

It's marginally safer for a child in the rear of a car.

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Also, is it correct that I should have the infant car seat always positioned backwards, so that the baby would be facing toward the back of the car?

(Sorry... This will be my first baby and I have no idea about any of this!)
Yes, it's law and a really good idea. A new born baby cannot support it's own head and whiplash caused by a frontal collision with a forward-facing baby could have severe consequences.

Best to keep them in a rearward facing seat for as long as possible.

Last edited by Tom1234; 08.09.2011 at 15:19. Reason: changed text regarding baby seats facing rearwards - it's law!
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Re: Rules For Transporting Chilldren In Car

Modern estate cars are great for transporting children and then paraphenelia.

You can probably get 5 or 6 in the boot with the cover pulled over
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Re: Rules For Transporting Chilldren In Car

Newborns must go facing backwars¡ds, no airbag etc. But I think it is even more of a distraction to not have the child near you in front seat where you can safely stop car, look to check child etc.
I had a huge discussion in Züri when we tried to buy a front facing seat for our fellow who was way too long and heavy for the maxi cosy, but had not reached the "age" for sitting front forwards, (only the length and weight...) She refused to sell us the seat! And that was before the stricter laws were brought in but they were the EU safety guidelines.

In some of the EU guidelines adults as well as children under 150cm must use a booster or adapted car seat but I've never seen that put into practice! I see tiny people stretching their necks to see over the steering wheel on a daily basis!
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In CH, how old does a child have to be before they can sit in a car without a car/booster seat. Are there any rules on a child sitting in the front seat of a car?

Any info would be appreciated.
See the exact text (in German) here. I will try to translate, apologies in advance for any errors.

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Landesrecht - SR 741.11 Verkerhrsregelnverordnung
Art 57 Abs. 5 SVG

1. In cars that are outfitted with seat belts, the driver and passengers must wear the available seat belts during the transport. The driver must ensure that children under 12 y/o are secured as by law.

2. Exceptions (...)

3. About passengers in small busses (...)

4. In seats fitted with seat belts, children under 12 y/o, who are smaller than 150 cm, an appropriate child security (e.g., child seat) must be used, which has been approved according to the ECE-Reglement Nr. 44 etc. No such seats must be used for children older than 4 y/o in seats that have been specifically approved for children or in a Bus.
So now my interpretation. Disclaimer: of course, different people may interpret this text differently, and I am not a lawyer.

If you have a car with seat belts, you must use them. Common sense should tell you not to transport your kids in a car without seat belts.

If you have a car with seat belts, kids under 12 AND smaller than 150 cm must be secured in a special approved child seat. I.e., kids of 12 and above, OR larger than 150 cm must use either the normal seat belts, or a special seat. Also, the seat must be approved for use for the specific child. Here in Switzerland, all child seats have an indication for which kind of child they are suitable.

For a (newborn) baby, usually the instructions for use of the baby seat include positioning facing backwards, and NOT on the front seat. Going against these instructions is therefore inappropriate and thus not allowed.

Therefore, the answers to your questions - IMHO - should be:
  1. How old does a child have to be before they can sit in a car without a car/booster seat? Either 12 y or older, or larger than 150 cm.
  2. Are there any rules on a child sitting in the front seat of a car? I have not been able to find any text on this issue. Note, however, that in most (American) cars, there will be a warning not to transport children on the front seat. If this is the case, then my interpretation of CH law is that this seat is NOT appropriate for child transport and therefore not allowed. See above about the appropriate use of the child seat.
Hope this helps.

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Newborns must go facing backwars¡ds
I changed my post to reflect this.

Thanks, Mabern.
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Are there any rules on a child sitting in the front seat of a car? I have not been able to find any text on this issue. Note, however, that in most (American) cars, there will be a warning not to transport children on the front seat. If this is the case, then my interpretation of CH law is that this seat is NOT appropriate for child transport and therefore not allowed. See above about the appropriate use of the child seat.
The text in the TCS leaflet is: The most secure seats in the car are in the
rear even for large children.


So the rear seats are are appropriate in most cases*

*One of our cars has no seat belts in the rear so kids go in the front!
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