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06.10.2011, 06:21
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Hi,
I'm thinking about a car which have "HAGELSCHADEN", or hail damaged. I haven't physically inspect the vehicle yet but from the pictures it doesn't look so bad. And it's a really good car for the price, so I don't particular mind the hail damage as it is purely cosmetics.
My question is that other than future resale value, what else would hail damaged vehicle cost me? Is it going to pass MFK? Advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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06.10.2011, 06:49
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | Hi,
I'm thinking about a car which have "HAGELSCHADEN", or hail damaged. I haven't physically inspect the vehicle yet but from the pictures it doesn't look so bad. And it's a really good car for the price, so I don't particular mind the hail damage as it is purely cosmetics.
My question is that other than future resale value, what else would hail damaged vehicle cost me? Is it going to pass MFK? Advice would be appreciated.
Thanks. | | | | | it has no other effect apart from the visual aspect. it doesnt affect things like mfk.
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06.10.2011, 08:18
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | Hi,
I'm thinking about a car which have "HAGELSCHADEN", or hail damaged. I haven't physically inspect the vehicle yet but from the pictures it doesn't look so bad. And it's a really good car for the price, so I don't particular mind the hail damage as it is purely cosmetics.
My question is that other than future resale value, what else would hail damaged vehicle cost me? Is it going to pass MFK? Advice would be appreciated.
Thanks. | | | | | Get a quote to get it fixed, then you know cheap it should be. I car could be written off because of hail damage.
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06.10.2011, 08:25
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle
if you don't care about the looks and never want to sell the car again (or have it repaired in a cheap country), you can do a very good deal.
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06.10.2011, 10:16
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If the damage is sufficient to affect the car's aerodynamics, it will in turn affect fuel consumption, tracking and stability at autobahn speeds, maybe tire wear.
If you have a photo of the damage to post, it might help a better assessment.
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06.10.2011, 10:42
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | If the damage is sufficient to affect the car's aerodynamics, it will in turn affect fuel consumption, tracking and stability at autobahn speeds, maybe tire wear. | | | | | You are kidding right??
Hail damage is most likely to occur on the roof, bonnet and boot. With, depending on the prevailing winds at the time, possible panel damage. None of which will adversly effect (to the required degree) the aerodynamic efficiency.
Changing the aerodynamics will not effect the tracking. Tracking is the 3-axis measurements indicating the angle of the wheel relative to the fixed lower suspension mount. The 3 measurements toe (the angle of the wheel in relation to the straight ahead), the camber (the angle of the wheel in relation to the vertical) and castor (the angle of the wheel in relation to the longtidual vertical). Assuming the main chassis members are all straight the values should all be very similar for each wheel on each axle.
Slap on wider tyres / roof bars / open windows - and you will effect economy.
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06.10.2011, 10:57
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | If the damage is sufficient to affect the car's aerodynamics, it will in turn affect fuel consumption, tracking and stability at autobahn speeds, maybe tire wear.
If you have a photo of the damage to post, it might help a better assessment. | | | | | So, the question now is - was this hail or an iceberg?
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06.10.2011, 11:02
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...no idea... | 
06.10.2011, 11:21
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actually, if you have the golf ball dimples, you might get better results: http://www.yourdiscovery.com/video/m...s-dimpled-car/
;-)
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06.10.2011, 11:23
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | You are kidding right??
Hail damage is most likely to occur on the roof, bonnet and boot. With, depending on the prevailing winds at the time, possible panel damage. None of which will adversly effect (to the required degree) the aerodynamic efficiency.
Changing the aerodynamics will not effect the tracking. Tracking is the 3-axis measurements indicating the angle of the wheel relative to the fixed lower suspension mount. The 3 measurements toe (the angle of the wheel in relation to the straight ahead), the camber (the angle of the wheel in relation to the vertical) and castor (the angle of the wheel in relation to the longtidual vertical). Assuming the main chassis members are all straight the values should all be very similar for each wheel on each axle.
Slap on wider tyres / roof bars / open windows - and you will effect economy. | | | | | LOL and ironicly enough hail damage could actually INCREASE aerodynamics a dimpled surface on a car could be one of the most sought after finishes if it didn't look so bad! The way air is channeled and flows around dimples reduces drag... VW Golfball anyone?
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06.10.2011, 11:25
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | <--- must type faster  Beaten again lol
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06.10.2011, 11:32
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | <--- must type faster Beaten again lol | | | | |  )
ok, now i wonder how you would have proceeded with this. you started with the vw golfball. maybe, give more cues in the next post.. and finally, the supporting video for the punch line post?
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06.10.2011, 11:38
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ok, now i wonder how you would have proceeded with this. you started with the vw golfball. maybe, give more cues in the next post.. and finally, the supporting video for the punch line post? | | | | | LOL Spot on mate | 
06.10.2011, 11:41
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...I can notice the difference in aerodynamics whether my car is dirty or not, but then again I am a maniac. | This user would like to thank J_T for this useful post: | | 
06.10.2011, 12:11
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | ...I can notice the difference in aerodynamics whether my car is dirty or not, but then again I am a maniac.  | | | | | Can you b&**£&ks!!
You will feel the effect of extra weight - but that is only in proportion to the mass of the car - and the torque of the engine.
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06.10.2011, 12:19
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...@250 kph. | 
06.10.2011, 14:43
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | ...@250 kph.  | | | | | Still not, unless it's your speedo that's dirty | 
06.10.2011, 15:15
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | If the damage is sufficient to affect the car's aerodynamics, it will in turn affect fuel consumption, tracking and stability at autobahn speeds, maybe tire wear.
If you have a photo of the damage to post, it might help a better assessment. | | | | | It may even improve.
Just think about a golfball. that has similar holes.
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06.10.2011, 17:08
| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | ...I can notice the difference in aerodynamics whether my car is dirty or not, but then again I am a maniac.  | | | | | Nice one. Great joke. I'll remember that one the next time I'm down the pub. | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: Hail damaged vehicle | Quote: | |  | | | ...@250 kph.  | | | | | Hail to thee blithe spirit
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