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Thanks a lot for the post, very informative. I have a 2017 Fireblade which I was initially thinking of selling before my move to Zurich, but the second hand blades in Switzerland see quiet a bit more expensive than in the UK (not sure why). So I am considering importing my bike.
Why would you sell a 2017 Blade? The only issue to consider ist the dipped beam pattern and that it mus be suitable for RHD/LHS. This can be quite costly if the whole light fixture has to be exchanged.
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Re: Importing my motorcycle

Also important:

If you sell within 12 months you'll have to pay taxes and such for importing it.
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Why would you sell a 2017 Blade? The only issue to consider ist the dipped beam pattern and that it mus be suitable for RHD/LHS. This can be quite costly if the whole light fixture has to be exchanged.
Convenience + cost + lack of knowledge/ experience. Generally in the UK imported vehicles don't fetch much in the second hand market and the insurance also costs more .. but when I compare www.motoscout24.ch and autotrader.co.uk for a standard 2017 blade swiss vehicles cost 20% : ( ..

As I will be new to Switzerland there will be a lot of digest ... but after reading this post I am considering keeping the vehicle
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Is it worth it to you to pay CHF 2k or so to import it?

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I was wondering what made you decide you wanted to import rather than sell and buy another one ?

How difficult is it to sell an imported vehicle in Switzerland ?
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A bit late to reply but at the time I had just spent some money getting the bike fixed (regulator/rectifier) and decided to keep it as I was not sure of how long I would here for.

As for imported vehicles in Switzerland, your log book will have an X marked to denote that it is an import. Dealers will of course offer a lower price for these as it was not a Swiss delivered vehicle. Some people can be a bit snobbish about these imported vehicles.

I ended up selling that bike to a person in France as they only offered me an export price because of the high mileage it had. Bike was a TDM 900, nothing special but served a purpose at the time I had it.
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As for imported vehicles in Switzerland, your log book will have an X marked to denote that it is an import.
Neither of mine have such an indication.

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Is it worth it to you to pay CHF 2k or so to import it?

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I have confirmed that the headlights can be adjusted and the dash is all digital and the units can be changed. The only mods I have are Crash Protectors, Engine Case Covers and a Quick Shifter. I can remove them for the inspection myself. Would it still cost me 2K ?

I plan to get a trailer and bring it over so there is that cost as well. I guess because £ has lots it's value so the blade holds more value as a blade then in £
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Re: Importing my motorcycle

I had a couple more questions about importing the motorcycle. I thought I should continue this thread as it seems to be very comprehensive.

1) My MOT will run out when my bike will be shipped to Switzerland. Do I renew it before I ship it over ?
2) When should I cancel the road tax ? Again the Road Tax is up for renewal.
3) Are premiums more expensive on a British license and on British Plates ?
4) To clarify a Stammnummer is enough to get Swiss insurance but not enough to request an export ? Once MFK (Swiss MOT) is done I will get swiss plate and return the British Plates and Log Book to DVLA

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Be prepared, Parliament is considering legislation to limit nouse levels to 92db (about 3 times the noise of an average car).
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92 DB at idle ? The drive by noise of 2017 blades was too much and it was black flagged at Snetterton. This was using the stock exhaust.
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Be prepared, Parliament is considering legislation to limit nouse levels to 92db (about 3 times the noise of an average car).
So many wrongs.

- It is 95 and not 92
- It is dB(A) and not db (Decibarn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barn_(unit) )
- Parliament has not even discussed yet. They have even not yet decided if they want to discuss it at all. https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetr...airId=20200444
-It about the measurement of noise emitted by stationary vehicles. which purposes is: "In order to facilitate subsequent checks on vehicles in use, the sound level must be measured close to the exhaust system outlet [...]"
-The stationary noise is not regulated at all neither for cars nor motorcyles (unlike the noise of vehicles in motion).
- The stationary noise is measured in a distance just 50 cm from the exhaust port.
- The noise of motorcycles in motion is measured in a distance of 7.5 metres from the center line.
- The noise of in motion (measured using the prescribed method) is limited to 77 dB(A) for new motorcycles
- Levels of the stationary noise and in motion noise are not comparable at all.
- 95 dB(A) is a lot but now one of sound mind puts its ear 50 cm away from the exhaust port when the engine is reved up to 1/2 of the RPM where the max power is.
- Yes it is more than the average of cars. But cars closes there flaps, while motorcycles have them mostly fully open during the stationary noise measurement. Reason is simple: The stationary noise was never regulated, and bigger numbers are better.
- Expect that future motorcycle will close the flaps for the stationary noise measurements as well (this is fully legal for the stationary noise measurement, because this noise is not regulated for type approval). They will be more silent on paper but still as loud on the street.
- The average car has a stationary noise of 75 - 82 dB(A) (first registration 2005 to 2015). O.k. that is about 3 times difference.

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I believe it is the drive by noise. The law will also authorise “Noise Cameras’ such as Geneva is now testing.
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Re: Importing my motorcycle

ohh cool, I have heard about these noise cameras before. As I do not have after market exhaust within the speed limits the vehicle does not sound too loud. It sounds loud at high RPM. I have refrained from buying an aftermarket exhaust : )

The 2017 Blade (and I believe quiet a few other bikes) has a flapper. The flapper does reduce the sound level at lower RPM's.
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Anyone know what a Zulassungspr is and how it relates to insurance and MFK ?
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10dB = 2x the noise.

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10dB = 2x the noise.

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You sure it's not 10x the noise power or 3x the noise amplitude?
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You sure it's not 10x the noise power or 3x the noise amplitude?
Yes. 10dB = twice the loudness, -10dB = half.

"You need 10x the power for twice the loudness. The dB ratingis not just how loud it sounds."Rather,each extra10 dB meansthesoundis 10 times as intense. The rule of thumb from last time means, that it is perceived to be (sounds") roughly 2 times as loud."

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