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Bringing here a sport car for summers only

Hi everyone. I have moved here 3 months ago (B permit) and still struggling with one problem. Situation is following:
I own a sports car in my home coutry (EU). It is a roadster. I do want to bring it and drive it here, but during summer seasons only. Afer each summer I want to drive it back home and store it there for the winter and then bring it back again in let's say May. I do not want to get it registered here (I will do so with my wife's car as she is going to keep it here permanently). I did declare it in the 18.44 (Declaration for clearance of household effects) so in case there is no other option I am still able to bring it without paying the import tax - but as said I prefer not to do that.

I lived in multiple EU countries before and never had a problem with it (actually never really even thought about it) but I am a bit worried now.

Anyone has an idea what to do? Many thanks.
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Re: Bringing here a sport car for summers only

After one year of living here you are not allowed to drive any foreign registered cars here. There are even problems with driving French rental cars here. You will have to import it and simply store it during the winter. Please search the forum.
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Re: Bringing here a sport car for summers only

The ONLY loophole is if you go away from CH for 3 months (deregister from gemeinde & all) then you get another year for the car.
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Re: Bringing here a sport car for summers only

You could still store in the UK & have the car on transferable plates. If your called up for an MFK you can cancel the registration till the summer.
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We have always had a car registered in Germany and have lived here for 6 months of the year for the last decade. No one cares. Never had a problem. And no one has ever questioned it. We never de-registered or anything. We have done this with several cars. We even had Swiss insurance on it. No problems what so ever.

Our other car was bought from a Swiss guy who used to work in the UK. It was a UK vehicle with UK plates. He drove it here for 18 months before selling it to us. We did register it here instead of using one of our other addresses. It was a complete pain in the ass and cost us about 6,000CHF.

Im sure some wanker is going to come in now and tell you its illegal. But they cant take away your B-permit for owning a foreign automobile. Id say keep it registered where it is.



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Hi everyone. I have moved here 3 months ago (B permit) and still struggling with one problem. Situation is following:
I own a sports car in my home coutry (EU). It is a roadster. I do want to bring it and drive it here, but during summer seasons only. Afer each summer I want to drive it back home and store it there for the winter and then bring it back again in let's say May. I do not want to get it registered here (I will do so with my wife's car as she is going to keep it here permanently). I did declare it in the 18.44 (Declaration for clearance of household effects) so in case there is no other option I am still able to bring it without paying the import tax - but as said I prefer not to do that.

I lived in multiple EU countries before and never had a problem with it (actually never really even thought about it) but I am a bit worried now.

Anyone has an idea what to do? Many thanks.
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Im sure some wanker is going to come in now and tell you its illegal. But they cant take away your B-permit for owning a foreign automobile. Id say keep it registered where it is.
Here I am, It's a customs offence it will be very expensive as you are not entitled to any tax reliefs, which you would if you declaire a car when you first arrive. Penaulties are several times the tax evaded.

The Police may also fine you for driving a car for which your CH license is not valid.

You can own a foreign registered vehicle, just cant drive it here.
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Re: Bringing here a sport car for summers only

Just search this forum for "foreign plates"


Forum: 11 results
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Im sure some wanker is going to come in now and tell you its illegal. But they cant take away your B-permit for owning a foreign automobile. Id say keep it registered where it is.
That is until you have an accident... from a Wanker
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You can own a foreign registered vehicle, just cant drive it here.
Actually, you can, just not for prolonged periods.

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After one year of living here you are not allowed to drive any foreign registered cars here.
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You can own a foreign registered vehicle, just cant drive it here.
We'll store these under the "gross and inaccurate generalisations" tab.
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We'll store these under the "gross and inaccurate generalisations" tab.
The OP asked for good advice, please don't let him down.

Driving foreign registered cars in Switzerland - for Swiss domiciled persons

The horses mouth, part 1,
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...gpKfo&typ=.pdf

You can of course ignore any good advice, but to encourage someone to break the laws is I believe a crime.

The horses mouth part 2,

Google for Form 15.50 it will give you an English .PDF to download, (There isn't an easy link to it)
[PDF]
Fact Sheet - Putting private motor vehicles and trailers into free ...
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...ndex.html?lang...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Form. 15.50 / 2011 edition. Fact Sheet - Putting private motor vehicles and ...

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The OP asked for good advice, please don't let him down.
So, say my parents visit in their foreign car, and for some reason I need to drive it to the shops. You saying that's not allowed? Just checking, 'cost that's what your first post said.
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So, say my parents visit in their foreign car, and for some reason I need to drive it to the shops. You saying that's not allowed? Just checking, 'cost that's what your first post said.
It's not allowed, for you to drive there car at all.
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So, say my parents visit in their foreign car, and for some reason I need to drive it to the shops. You saying that's not allowed? Just checking, 'cost that's what your first post said.
After one year of living here you are not allowed to drive any foreign registered cars here. There are even problems with driving French rental cars here.
Yes that is correct!

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Exactly - and you won't be insured either. So if anybody runs into you, be it a child or a lorry- doesn't bear thinking about.
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Re: Bringing here a sport car for summers only

I asked the strassen'V and Zoll in Zurich this question 3 weeks or so ago, when I was offered a friends car to baby sit. My friend was thinking of driving from the UK to CH, leaving the car with me, going travelling and coming back 4-6 months later, picking up the car and driving back to Blighty. I can't find the email (I will post if I find it) but bottom line was as others have stated, it is illegal for a Swiss resident to drive a non Swiss registered car, UNLESS they are in the 1st 12 months of residency and it was imported as part of their move, and penalties for failure to comply could be steep.... and the Swiss do like handing it out to expats who try and pull a fast one.

They did point out that once the car had entered CH no one would really know, unless you were stopped for a control or had a shunt, in which case the rozzers would be a callin' PDQ.
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Re: Bringing here a sport car for summers only

Thanks for your replies and advices guys. Looks like the many different views though. To summarize:
- I understand that there might be an issue
- I do not fully comprehend the statement that I am not going to be able to drive any car registered abroad as Sbrinz says. Is that valid for Swiss nationals as well e.g. no Swiss person is allowed to drive any foreign car in Switzerland? I could possibly understand when the car is registered to myself. But not to be able to drive my parent's car where they come to visit us... Well if that is illegal than it is just plain crazy However would not be the first crazy thing here
- I do not want to cheat but registering a car here just to be able to drive it 3-4 months a year and have it abroad for most of the time just does not seem right to me (even though it may be like that eventually). I would be OK to pay a road tax or anything meaningful but registering it...
- I do not get the point regarding insurance. I do have the car insured in my home country with a green card valid in CH as well. What is the problem here? The car is properly insured and if something happens the fact that I have residence permit in CH has nothing to do with my insurance company!

Well anyway thanks everyone for the input and the links. Will continue my search for a reasonable solution. If anyone meanwhile has anything to add - please do so.
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Re: Bringing here a sport car for summers only

The Swiss residency is the point, and your agreeing or not is irrelevant in the eyes of the law, the rules are simple and straight forward, your search for loopholes is the only thing making it complicated. Bring your car here and register it, store it in the UK, or sell. Other than you don't see the point, what is your objection to complying with the laws of the country in which you reside? With the exception of one idiotic post, the advice is all one way.

As far as the insurance is concerned, have you checked the small print as many withdraw cover when you become non uk resident, and the green card was designed for UK resident (which you aren't) taking their car abroad, and as CH isn't part of the EU... Swissy rules apply;-)
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Your Green card is valid as a tourist in CH, NOT as a resident.
Your parents car insurance will not be valid for your to drive here as a resident. This is fact, not a point of view, sorry.
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Re: Bringing here a sport car for summers only

It works both ways: I tried to buy insurance for me to drive my father's car in London, it was impossible. I used a well known experienced broker, Frizzell, and the problem was that I was not resident in UK any longer.

Obviously you can get away with driving a car here for a time. But how often are you stopped routinely at borders or by town police and asked for your driving license and car papers? I am controlled at least once per year.

And no Tom, no Zuger, and no Carlos, you cannot drive a foreign car sometimes, even in Basel & Tessin!
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