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16.11.2011, 11:46
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| | Re: What size winter tyres do I need? | Quote: | |  | | | Ok so it is time for us to get a set of winter tyres and rims for the car however both me and my husband are a bit lost . We want to get them online from reifen but we have no idea what size we need. The tyres that are on ar 205/55/R17 but i cant seem to get 17's can i put 16's on?. Plus should we stick to the 205/55?
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Rachel | | | | | I recently bought a set of 17" Alloy with Kumho K27 winter tyres from e-pnue for 1200 CHF. The wheels are complete and balanced.
If you want I can recommend you so you can get a 40 CHF discount.
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16.11.2011, 11:55
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| | Re: What size winter tyres do I need?
If you are looking to save some costs it is quite common to go for steel rims in place of alloys. It is also fairly regular to see cars with 17" for summer and 16" for winter.
It should be possible to get 205/55/R16 with steel rims fitted and balanced for around 800CHF at a place like http://www.auto-technik-unger.ch/pag...z=CH&gebiet=CH
These costs include fit, balance and generally insurance on the tyres for 2 years
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16.11.2011, 11:58
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| | Re: What size winter tyres do I need?
The price quoted for tires and rims is less excessive especially with the Pirelli tires.
You often go from 17" summer tires to 16" winter tires so you you have room (between the tire and the wheel well) to install your snow chains.
If you have 17" winter tires, it is often the case that there will not be enough room to pass the chains over the tire. And if the chains are a bit loose, they will do some damage to the wheel well and car trim around the wheel well.
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16.11.2011, 12:52
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| | Car dealer = unpaid service staff for online shop | Quote: | |  | | | 16 inch tires will never fit a 17 inch rim. I recommend you first go to a dealer who sells the same make of car you own (VW, Opel, Ford, etc., etc., etc.). He can best advise you on what sizes fit your particular vehicle. With that information you can then go shopping for the right tires. | | | | | So you suggest to go to a dealer for service, pester him with questions, and then buy online. Nice idea - Not.
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16.11.2011, 13:03
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| | Re: Car dealer = unpaid service staff for online shop | Quote: | |  | | | So you suggest to go to a dealer for service, pester him with questions, and then buy online. Nice idea - Not. | | | | | Given the prices dealers charge here for "service" I don't think a 5 min phone call is going to send them to the poorhouse!! e.g. Chf35 for 2 liters of windowwasher fluid when I had filled it before taking my car in for a "Swiss all-inclusive" service -hello??
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16.11.2011, 13:37
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| | Re: What size winter tyres do I need?
Very simple way to sort this, all cars have a type approval number that will look look something similar to e1*2001/116*0430*05*, you should find it on the vehicle registration papers or somewhere under the bonnet in a fairly obvious location, make sure any rims you get are suitable for your type approval number, all rims will list what type approval they are suitable for and quite often the appropriate tyre size as well, make sure you see this and you should be OK.
I've never heard of changing rim size but keeping same tyre size, it is quite possible that having the smaller rim but same size tyre will cause your speedo to over read. so it will say 50 but you are actually doing 40.
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16.11.2011, 13:53
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| | Re: What size winter tyres do I need? | Quote: | |  | | | ]Very simple way to sort this, all cars have a type approval number that will look look something similar to e1*2001/116*0430*05*[/SIZE], you should find it on the vehicle registration papers or somewhere under the bonnet in a fairly obvious location, make sure any rims you get are suitable for your type approval number, all rims will list what type approval they are suitable for and quite often the appropriate tyre size as well, make sure you see this and you should be OK.
I've never heard of changing rim size but keeping same tyre size, it is quite possible that having the smaller rim but same size tyre will cause your speedo to over read. so it will say 50 but you are actually doing 40. | | | | |
The bit I have enlarged in the text above, he wrote a number like that down from the registration document.
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16.11.2011, 13:54
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| | Re: What size winter tyres do I need?
That is correct, you need 205/60/16 or something similar. Maybe you can ask the dealer about this. If he says you're fine, he's clearly incompetent.
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16.11.2011, 14:39
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| | Re: What size winter tyres do I need?
Ok so at lunch I took the car to another garage and they said the exact same thing as my dealer, that I will need 205/55/R16 set also said i need premium tyres but quoted me over 1800 chuffs. They checked the same things as the dealer before hand and then checked the green form.
It was my mistake my tyres are 205/50/R17 at the moment, kept getting the 50 and the 55 mixed up sorry guys.
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16.11.2011, 15:03
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| | Re: What size winter tyres do I need?
ahhhh.... that clears it up then.
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16.11.2011, 16:06
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Again i am really sorry for the confusion, I did tell you i was rubbish at car things. Thank you all for all your help.
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16.11.2011, 16:46
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Go to ATU in Germany and get wheels and tyres for less than half the Swiss price. they can supply the Swiss certificate also. Take your car papers.
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16.11.2011, 19:43
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| | Re: What size winter tyres do I need? | Quote: | |  | | | Again i am really sorry for the confusion, I did tell you i was rubbish at car things. Thank you all for all your help. | | | | | I help once in awhile at a friends garage in buchs and he puts for the winter 15" rims and tires on almost all the cars with 17" Summer tires and rims. First they have to make sure smaller rims clear the brake calipers, my car came also with smaller winter rims and tires than the summer wheels. Seems normal here for the winter. They are approved for here. Most Dealers just want to make money. One guy came in and the Dealer wanted 2000 for 17" rims and tires. He left with 800 for 15" rims and tires. Just check around but a Dealer will never let you off cheap.
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17.11.2011, 14:03
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| | Re: What size winter tyres do I need?
We just had winter tires put on our imported car for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Also, had no clue as to what size we needed. We tried the dealership but the quote seemed rather high so my husband then found a garage near our home and we stopped by on a saturday morning. The owner/mechanic told us which size was correct for car and even directed us to buy (online) another tire. We ordered them and had them delivered directly to the garage. The dealership wanted CHF1800 and we ended up paying, when all was said and done, CHF900.
For those in the Zürich area, I highly recommend Pneu Alex in Fällenden. The owner also speaks English and was very helpful.
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