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Old 08.12.2011, 08:45
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But how on earth is a pedestrian supposed to know when a car will stop in time? I saw the car coming very slowly; I thought the driver had seen me. They hadn't. ...and I assure you that the drivers just LOVE me now when, being 'once hitten(sic) twice shy', I wait until they stop completely. "Any fool could tell that I've seen that idiotic pedestrian and am slowing down to let her cross".
Whenever I cross a pedestrian crossing, I always try to make eye contact with the driver to make sure he has seen me. If that doesn't work and he/she isn't looking at me, I tend to keep myself in a position such that I could jump out of the way if needed or not cross at all.

If it's dark, then I am doubly cautious and will tend to wave the car through or just wait till there are no cars around.
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Old 08.12.2011, 11:19
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I've got around 20 pedestrian crossings on my way home and over half of them are on or after bends or corners.
Just for the heck of it I counted the ones I have on my way from/to work and I ended up with the unbelievable number of 72 (Yes, seventy-two) one way, being 24 km. Which means there is one every 333.33 metres Can hardly believe it myself.
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Old 08.12.2011, 11:28
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Re: Pedestrian Crossings...

Agreed, Swiss zebra crossings are very poorly marked. When it's wet or raining, they lack distinction and drivers not familiar with a road may not even be aware of their presence.

The UK has those "cats eyes" studs which they use on most major roads, there's no reason why those couldn't be used here to better mark where pedestrians may be crossing. It's pretty scarey when someone just appears out of the dark and appears in your windshield.

Maybe more people need to die before someone bothers to spend the required cash.
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Old 13.12.2011, 15:45
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Re: Pedestrian Crossings...

Ok it's Blick... But anyway, doesn't sound half bad. Couple of ideas that popped up here, seem to be interesting

http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/wan...cht-auf-189561
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Old 13.12.2011, 15:56
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Whenever I cross a pedestrian crossing, I always try to make eye contact with the driver to make sure he has seen me.
I do that with the four-wheel drive BMW and Mercedes drivers.
They look you straight in the eye but still drive straight across the crossing without stopping.

I'd like to think that I'm stereo-typing but I'm not - it really is a particular type of t*sser who buys and drives those cars.

Regarding placement of crossings:

If a crossing is in a bad place then complain to your local councillor.

We were horrified to discover the location of one that your son had to cross twice a day next to the school - it was on a blind corner.

Apparently the man who decided it's location decided that it didn't matter that the car drivers couldn't see who was crossing as it would be up to the pedestrians to decide whether it was safe to cross.

Great -except 90% of the users were kindergarten and Primary school children.

Anyway, enough people complained so the crossing got moved to a safer place and a pavement got extended so most of the children wouldn't need to use the crossing anyway (they originally had to cross the same road twice within 20 metres).
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Old 13.12.2011, 16:06
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I do that with the four-wheel drive BMW and Mercedes drivers.
They look you straight in the eye but still drive straight across the crossing without stopping.
It's always useful to have a camera handy and to point it in their direction. It works wonders in terms of them suddenly being able to see zebra crossings they otherwise chose to ignore. One who didn't actually stop before the crossing stopped after and jumped out of the car demanding I delete the picture. I took a couple more of him standing there (in a no waiting area) while he screamed abuse at me.
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It's always useful to have a camera handy and to point it in their direction. It works wonders in terms of them suddenly being able to see zebra crossings they otherwise chose to ignore. One who didn't actually stop before the crossing stopped after and jumped out of the car demanding I delete the picture. I took a couple more of him standing there (in a no waiting area) while he screamed abuse at me.
It's a great idea but is there a chance you could get done for taking pics without permission? I was considering doing it from a distance (we have a well ignored pedestrian crossing outside our place) and just submitting 10 or 20 shots of motorists doing some of the more colourful stunts to maintain their speed and course no matter who is trying to cross, or indeed mid-way across .
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Old 13.12.2011, 16:15
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I don't believe there is a law against taking pictures (or pretending to take pictures). There may be a law against publishing them or selling them without the permission of the people in the picture.
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Old 13.12.2011, 16:24
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It's always useful to have a camera handy and to point it in their direction. It works wonders in terms of them suddenly being able to see zebra crossings they otherwise chose to ignore. One who didn't actually stop before the crossing stopped after and jumped out of the car demanding I delete the picture. I took a couple more of him standing there (in a no waiting area) while he screamed abuse at me.
I may just do that for laughs - just to see their faces.

I sometimes try and remember the car registrations but more as a memory exercise.
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Old 13.12.2011, 16:46
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Re: Pedestrian Crossings...

I'm also thinking that there are too many of pedestrian crossings in most towns. I particularly dislike those that have parking lanes on both sides - you can barely make out an adult wanting to cross the street, kids are completely covered by the parking cars.
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Old 13.12.2011, 17:20
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It's always useful to have a camera handy and to point it in their direction. It works wonders in terms of them suddenly being able to see zebra crossings they otherwise chose to ignore. One who didn't actually stop before the crossing stopped after and jumped out of the car demanding I delete the picture. I took a couple more of him standing there (in a no waiting area) while he screamed abuse at me.
I have tried a similar approach but different technique. Row of cars screaming along refusing to stop so I carefully took an almighty huge step with every intention of jumping back out of the way if needed. Driver had to lock up the brakes to stop!! They were clearly pissed off at me daring to use the crossing marked for pedestrians.

I am reasonably fit and quick so I only stepped as far as I could knowing I had plenty of reserve to return safely if necessary.

The trick had the desired effect and then I walked slowly across waving the 5 people behind me to follow also slowly.

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Belisha Beacons and a white light would help, a bit like Britain has had for years.
My thoughts exactly. Much better.
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