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Re: 90 CHF surcharge for buying ticket on train

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That's absolutely bullshit, I bet if you were Swiss the conductor would have given you a break. They are looking for every excuse to rake in the money for the government.
Don't talk rubbish.
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Old 12.12.2011, 09:54
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That's absolutely bullshit, I bet if you were Swiss the conductor would have given you a break. They are looking for every excuse to rake in the money for the government.
I'm not so sure about that. These guys are drones, the rule book applies.

Please try not to turn this thread into a 'Swiss not only milk cows, but expats too' thread.

You pay the ticket, you take the ride, or in my case, you take the ride, you pay the ticket. Simples.
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Old 12.12.2011, 09:58
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That's absolutely bullshit, I bet if you were Swiss the conductor would have given you a break. They are looking for every excuse to rake in the money for the government.
Spot the disconnect between these two sentences.

Hint: Most of the people on trains are Swiss. If you were an evil SBB minion 'looking for every excuse to rake in the money', would you start by letting 75% of your potential fines off the hook?
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Old 12.12.2011, 10:04
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Spot the disconnect between these two sentences.

Hint: Most of the people on trains are Swiss. If you were an evil SBB minion 'looking for every excuse to rake in the money', would you start by letting 75% of your potential fines off the hook?
Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. So I didn't bother

And actually, being a (former) foreigner, I've gotten away without paying a fine at least once by pretending not to be able to speak French or German .
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That's absolutely bullshit, I bet if you were Swiss the conductor would have given you a break. They are looking for every excuse to rake in the money for the government.
Actually, I will have to disagree with you... "my friend" got way several times with wrong/missing tickets. She is as Swiss as manchego cheese. Most train conductors are pretty decent and reasonable... of course there are some pricks, as in every profession.
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Re: 90 CHF surcharge for buying ticket on train

I am quite used to having my ticket checked on trains but last Friday I was on a bus and when it was stopped at a busy change over, a few inspectors came on the bus and start checking tickets. The bus just parked there until they finished and there are a few people got pulled off the bus as they not got a valid ticket and the bus continue on. I not seen this done before and I think the people got pulled off is the first time they experience it as well!

So it is not worth to save a few CHF to get the hassle of it! setup the app on the phone or get strip tags if you have no need for a regular Abo!
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Re: 90 CHF surcharge for buying ticket on train

There are definitely decent conductors out there.

I recently showed my halbtax, and the conductoer pointed out that it was six weeks out of date, which was somewhat embarrassing. It was a fair cop, and all that.

He said he didn't have any fine tickets with him, he'd have to "go and get some". Then he wandered off, walked past me a couple more times during the journey, but never issued a fine.

Which was nice.

I bought a full price ticket for the return. (And didn't even try to reclaim the unused half price sector )
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Old 12.12.2011, 11:23
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Re: 90 CHF surcharge for buying ticket on train

Speaking of conductors...

I have noticed that there are a lot more female conductors on trains now. I recall someone telling me that this was because the men had a propensity for aggression where the girls were better at defusing a potentially highly charged situation.

I have encountered a few sour-faced conductors but by and large I find them perfectly pleasant. There is a clear difference however between a Swiss German conductor and a Romandie conductor. As soon as I cross the Röstigraben a universal light appears out of the ether and it's all Bon Jour this and pas problem that. A sense of caring less seems to prevail.
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Actually, I will have to disagree with you... "my friend" got way several times with wrong/missing tickets. She is as Swiss as manchego cheese. Most train conductors are pretty decent and reasonable... of course there are some pricks, as in every profession.
I agree with this. I think attitude is part of the problem - if I were a conductor and caught someone without a ticket or with the wrong ticket it wouldn't take me long to lose any sympathy if the person became confrontational or rude. The mistake, intentional or not, is down to the passenger for not having a ticket and not me as a conductor.

If, however, the passenger held up their hands and was apologetic and showing some kind of remorse I would be more likely to go easy on them and give them a break.

It's easy - act like an arse you get treated as one. Obviously, there are those conductors who love to be in a position of power and will relish issuing you with a fine whatever you say but I don't agree that most of them are like that.
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Old 12.12.2011, 11:36
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I'm not so sure about that. These guys are drones, the rule book applies.
No, I've seen some people get off who definitely didn't deserve it.

One guy told the conductor some massive sob story and the conductor obviously chose to believe him and this guy and his mate where laughing their heads off when the conductor moved on.

Not that I recommend you try that.
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Old 12.12.2011, 11:38
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No, I've seen some people get off who definitely didn't deserve it.

One guy told the conductor some massive sob story and the conductor obviously chose to believe him and this guy and his mate where laughing their heads off when the conductor moved on.

Not that I recommend you try that.
I guess me sitting in 1st Class waving my Visa card saying 'whateva' means I forfeit my right to magic up a feasible sob story...

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Old 12.12.2011, 12:01
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And just to add to this. There is a time of purchase on tickets bought via the SBB app, so the inspector will know if it was bought before or after the train left.

I'd imagine when they scan it in the machine may remind them if they don't notice themselves.
That would be a shame if that is the case. There are several times when I've got to the station just in the nick of time and run straight on to the train, and then purchased the ticket on the iPhone app once I was on board.

As for nice train attendants, they are just as nice in the ticket offices. A couple of months ago, I forgot to buy a ticket for a local journey. The next day I popped into the ticket office to buy a new ticket and told the chap behind the counter that I also want to pay for yesterday's journey. He said, no you can't do that now, you just need to pay the fine. I said, I wasn't fined because there was no inspector on the train. He looked at me and said: "you're lucky then!" and didn't charge me for the free journey.
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Old 12.12.2011, 12:06
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Re: 90 CHF surcharge for buying ticket on train

Perfectly timed with the warning of a dip into recession
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Old 12.12.2011, 12:11
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Re: 90 CHF surcharge for buying ticket on train

I'm closing this Thread as there is another Thread on the same subject. I cannot merge as they are both running at the same time and posts are always 'sorted' by time posted when threads are merged. It makes a complete muck-up if they are put together.

Been there, done that. Had a very red face!

The other Thread is here.
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Old 12.12.2011, 14:27
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Re: 90 CHF surcharge for buying ticket on train

Thanks to Longbyt for reopening the thread so that I can post a quick update.

I went to the SBB ticket office and renewed my 1st Class GA as of today. As a result they were quite happy to waver the fine and fare that I paid this morning. All I had to pay was a 5 CHF charge.

Not very villainous of them to be honest. They were so sweet and helpful that I almost got confused. Bravo SBB.
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