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Old 20.12.2011, 13:06
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Enhanced prison terms for speeding - be aware!

Under the reform, such drivers risk a prison sentence of between one and four years, a year more than the current law.

The penalties will apply to drivers caught doing 70 kilometres per hour in a 30 zone, 100km/h in a 50 zone and 140km/h in an 80 zone.

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Old 20.12.2011, 13:10
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Re: Enhanced prison terms for speeding - be aware!

Does that mean that the prison term used to be from no prison to 3 years, or is it the max that got extended and it used to be 1-3 and is now 1-4?
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Old 20.12.2011, 13:28
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The penalties will apply to drivers caught doing 70 kilometres per hour in a 30 zone, 100km/h in a 50 zone and 140km/h in an 80 zone.
Erm. Good!
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Old 20.12.2011, 13:31
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Under the reform, such drivers risk a prison sentence of between one and four years, a year more than the current law.

The penalties will apply to drivers caught doing 70 kilometres per hour in a 30 zone, 100km/h in a 50 zone and 140km/h in an 80 zone.

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I have a question, what if you were to do 70 in a 30 backwards for about 5 minutes...would you get credit for it, meaning you were allowed to drive 140 in a 60 for 5 minutes or would you automatically receive the amount of the fine in your bank account?
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Old 20.12.2011, 13:36
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I have a question, what if you were to do 70 in a 30 backwards for about 5 minutes...would you get credit for it, meaning you were allowed to drive 140 in a 60 for 5 minutes or would you automatically receive the amount of the fine in your bank account?
Here's the thing - if you drive backwards at 70kmh you are still driving at 70kmh - so you'll still be fined. Speed isn't directionally dependent.

Do prove this - we can load you, in your car, into a plane. We will get to say 5,000m - place your car in reverse - open the plane and watch you deaccelerate to the ground.

With a bit of luck, on landing, you'll receive a ticket for illegal parking.
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Old 20.12.2011, 13:41
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Here's the thing - if you drive backwards at 70kmh you are still driving at 70kmh - so you'll still be fined. Speed isn't directionally dependent.

Do prove this - we can load you, in your car, into a plane. We will get to say 5,000m - place your car in reverse - open the plane and watch you deaccelerate to the ground.

With a bit of luck, on landing, you'll receive a ticket for illegal parking.
Despite sensing some slight animosity in your post..I will still discuss my concerns. Well, for one, if you drop me from a plane, I will not only move horizontally...my main displacement would be vertical at about 9.8m/sec2...this therefore disproves your theory of deacceleration making it a steady acceleration.
Now, to get back to my point...you are not allowed to do 70 in a 30 driving forward...as it's against the law. Isn't it more than logical, that if you were to do the exact opposite meaning driving 70 in a 30 backwards, that you'll receive the opposite of the predetermined legal repercussions?
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Old 20.12.2011, 13:46
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Now, to get back to my point...you are not allowed to do 70 in a 30 driving forward...as it's against the law. Isn't it more than logical, that if you were to do the exact opposite meaning driving 70 in a 30 backwards, that you'll receive the opposite of the predetermined legal repercussions?
The way I see it, a good prosecuting lawyer would argue that you weren't going backwards at 70. You were merely travelling in the opposite direction at 70. And hence speeding.

To get away with it, I think you would need to reverse at 70 the wrong way along a one way street.

(Make sure there isn't a contra-flow cycle lane though, otherwise they might get you on a technicality)


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Old 20.12.2011, 13:49
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To get away with it, I think you would need to reverse at 70 the wrong way along a one way street.
Now, this may come to you as a total surprise...but I've done something similar in the past.
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Old 20.12.2011, 13:49
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do prove this - we can load you, in your car, into a plane. We will get to say 5,000m - place your car in reverse - open the plane and watch you deaccelerate to the ground.
fail:........................
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, I will not only move horizontally...my main displacement would be vertical at about 9.8m/sec2...
Ah yes, now I understand why you think HST lines and motorways ought to be built according to the same engineering standards.
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Old 20.12.2011, 14:09
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Re: Enhanced prison terms for speeding - be aware!

We've gone from having debtor's prisons to banker's prisons. Excellent.
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Old 20.12.2011, 14:28
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Re: Enhanced prison terms for speeding - be aware!

Tsk tsk LIB.

As you leave the plane you'll be travelling at the speed of the plane. Once left you will no longer experience the lateral thrust of the plane. Horizantally you will deaccelerate due to air resistance.

G-force is usually measured as such:

left = negative lateral G
right = positive lateral G
back = negative longitudal G
forward = positive longutudal G
down = negative vertical G
up = positive vertical G

If you falling - guess which one you are experiencing?
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Tsk tsk LIB.

As you leave the plane you'll be travelling at the speed of the plane. Once left you will no longer experience the lateral thrust of the plane. Horizantally you will deaccelerate due to air resistance.

G-force is usually measured as such:

left = negative lateral G
right = positive lateral G
back = negative longitudal G
forward = positive longutudal G
down = negative vertical G
up = positive vertical G

If you falling - guess which one you are experiencing?
The one with moist pants...followed by a lot of screaming?
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If one travels in a DeLorean DMC-12, going 140kmh in a 50kmh zone, and travels 30 - 100 years back in time... did the driver actually commit a speeding violation?


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If one travels in a DeLorean DMC-12, going 140kmh in a 50kmh zone, and travels 30 - 100 years back in time... did the driver actually commit a speeding violation?
That depends, whether the DeLorean was insured.
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If one travels in a DeLorean DMC-12, going 140kmh in a 50kmh zone, and travels 30 - 100 years back in time... did the driver actually commit a speeding violation?


Going back in time...he might be able to get away with it...since they cannot chase through time...unless they have Jean Claude Van Damme.

But they would have trouble with the cops when they come back...since they have to do atleast 88kmph.
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Re: Enhanced prison terms for speeding - be aware!

Just a quick point of reference.

You CAN drive 140kmh in a 30kmh zone. There is little to stop you - except for the many parked cars.

However if you DO drive 140kmh and get caught - then you're truly f*****
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However if you DO drive 140kmh and get caught - then you're truly f*****
Proper f***ed ?
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Just a quick point of reference.

You CAN drive 140kmh in a 30kmh zone. There is little to stop you - except for the many parked cars.

However if you DO drive 140kmh and get caught - then you're truly f*****
Truly f*****? I would have thought you'd be more of a w*****.
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Going back in time...he might be able to get away with it...since they cannot chase through time...unless they have Jean Claude Van Damme.

But they would have trouble with the cops when they come back...since they have to do atleast 88kmph.
So if Marty McFly should accidentally run over Bill and Ted while speeding in 1955, would that be in Timecop's jurisdiction, or should Austin Powers pursue it as a possible Dr. Evil assassination plot?
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