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Old 08.01.2012, 23:14
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No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

what the hell is this? there is now a 90chf fine if you don't buy the ticket before hand. i feel like in switzerland the quality of life is being lowered in the sense of taking liberties sometimes. they seem to be getting more conservative in ways to secretly fine you i.e. the bus (got fined after getting on the back and lingering 2 seconds) i even feel that this even might be an anti foreign measure because....

of course any swiss would buy the ticket before hand.
a "lazy" american might wait and just buy it once he boards later.

any thoughts?

also i don't see any whores in the back of Le Matin anymore, another example of getting more conservative and caring more.

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Old 08.01.2012, 23:17
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My first thought is
"Where do you come from, where you can board public transport without a ticket?" and I am glad if the newspapers stop the adverts for sex.
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Re: No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

Better to fine people that don't buy their tickets beforehand than increase the prices to use public transport.
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Old 08.01.2012, 23:24
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"Where do you come from, where you can board public transport without a ticket?"
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Old 08.01.2012, 23:42
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Where I lived when I rode public transport in the US (suburbs of Chicago and in Hawaii), you handed your money to the bus driver as you boarded, if you needed a "transfer ticket" (changing buses at a stop further down the road), you simply told the driver and he gave you a punch ticket.

So, this ticket machine thing here is new - also, if I remember right, you hand cash (or scan your card?) when you board the post buses here as well, if you hadn't already purchased a ticket (or have an abo).

(On the other hand, I can't think of a good reason why you'd get on the BACK of the bus knowing you still had to settle financial things with the driver, unless you hadn't intended to pay.)


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why so harsh on the response? just made 2 points about things becoming more conservative with worse customer service. i think they should learn about customer service here from the usa. we are learning here even though its not in the culture. it would be great to have better service considering the amount of billionaires there are in this country.

once i was treated like shit and fined by a low paid protectas bus collector. more than once similar things have happened.
If you've ever met a billionaire in the US, you'd know how many of them are rude and condescending and they very frequently do not respect people who give them the type of service you are referring to. Make use of it, "appreciate" it in some "I am above you" way, but respect it? Not on your life. Otherwise they'd actually PAY people there what they DESERVE!!
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Re: No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

they better make sure the machines are working 110% of the time. because that certainly is not the case in vevey (always problems). if i have to stand on the long ass line i will surely miss my train. this is what angers me.
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Old 08.01.2012, 23:48
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they better make sure the machines are working 110% of the time. because that certainly is not the case in vevey (always problems). if i have to stand on the long ass line i will surely miss my train. this is what angers me.

Then plan well enough that you have time to stand in line without missing your train.
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buses you certainly can
but you are right on the trains, I'll propose Australia….Brisbane specifically.
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Re: No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

People pay for public transport??

Paaa, losers
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e.g. Germany
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what the hell is this? there is now a 90chf fine if you don't buy the ticket before hand.
Sorry to hear that you've been fined, but that change has been widely published (and discussed) last fall before it became effective in December. Have you been out of the country?

I totally agree with you though that it's a serious deterioration of customer service.
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Re: No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

Ok, first post I was thinking "it was all over the press and there's a big sign at the entrance of the train - tough luck". Second post I was thinking "troll".
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Re: No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

why so harsh on the response? just made 2 points about things becoming more conservative with worse customer service. i think they should learn about customer service here from the usa. we are learning here even though its not in the culture. it would be great to have better service considering the amount of billionaires there are in this country.

once i was treated like shit and fined by a low paid protectas bus collector. more than once similar things have happened.
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Re: No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

FYI see here

http://www.sbb.ch/en/station-service...-a-ticket.html
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Old 09.01.2012, 20:52
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Re: No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

Did you see this statement? from http://www.sbb.ch/en/station-service...-a-ticket.html

... Furthermore, your personal details will be electronically recorded and kept for at least two years. You will be charged both the cost of the ticket and the supplement.

The fines Supplement) increase each time you are caught. An ex lodger I know was often fined for travelling Bern to Thun without a ticket. Eventually he was taken before a judge and fined CHF 600,-- !! This he also refused to pay, & so instead of going to prison, he was given extra work on Saturdays, working in the forest. I have since lost touch with him.
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Re: No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

I must say I can't understand all the fuss about this...

Where I lived in the UK, you couldn't even get on the platform without a train ticket, and there was only one automatic ticket machine at the station, plus 2-3 ticket desks. You got there in time to buy your ticket, because that was how it worked. And this was the main train station in a fairly large commuter town.

Similarly, you couldn't get on a bus without showing your ticket / purchasing one. Which of course caused buses to regularly run late as everyone bought their ticket.

I find it amazing how much trust the Swiss transport system has in their customers, in that you can get on a bus / train without proving that you have a valid ticket. And there is the added bonus that you can just get on a bus in the middle and sit down without having to queue up to see the driver...

And if they've now introduced heavier fines because people were abusing that trust... well I can't blame them.

I must admit I have a GA so it doesn't affect me personally... but even before I got that I still made sure I had enough time to buy my ticket because in my mind you pay for public transport before using it. What if you plan to buy your ticket on the train and no inspector comes along?

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Re: No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

Just perhaps, the fuss is also about the erosion on the Honor System in CH public transportation.
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Re: No longer able to buy ticket on SBB

...well a lot of people where cheating the system i guess plus doesn't it just make more sense to buy it before you get one the train ? but you can still buy a ticket on a bus(postauto9 if you like.
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