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Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

As I am having issues getting my winter tyres delivered - I was wondering if it is possible to put chains on summer tyres? Would I get up a mountain?
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

The wheels with the chains will be fine - the other won't.

It could well be a very uncomfortable journey.
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

Is there a "comfort" difference with summer or winter tyres?

Or you mean in general, it will not be comfortable.
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

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Is there a "comfort" difference with summer or winter tyres?

Or you mean in general, it will not be comfortable.
What he is saying is that your Summer tyres will be ruined by driving them on snow and ice, and ruined tyres = uncomfortable.
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As I am having issues getting my winter tyres delivered - I was wondering if it is possible to put chains on summer tyres? Would I get up a mountain?
Should be no problem at all, although of course you'll be limited to driving quite slowly with them on, so you'll need to mount/dismount them every time you enter and leave a snowy area. Most manufacturers recommend, IIRC, no more than 50kph, and really, you would not want to leave them on at higher speeds than that, or indeed on clear tarmac.

Someone mentioned chains causing damage to tyres, which I don't understand at all. I've never heard of anything like that.
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

You guys reckon they will be ruined if I use it less than 2-3 times?

Does summer tyres get ruined faster than winter tyres?
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

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You guys reckon they will be ruined if I use it less than 2-3 times?

Does summer tyres get ruined faster than winter tyres?
Yes they do. Especially if it gets very cold.
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As I am having issues getting my winter tyres delivered - I was wondering if it is possible to put chains on summer tyres? Would I get up a mountain?
Com' on people!!! I thought this subject has been covered enough: YOU DO NOT DRIVE ON SUMMER TYRES IN WINTER!!! NO MATTER WHAT!!!
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

no they don't...
The only difference between summer and winter tires are the depth of the prints. Adding a chain to the wheel will make it run in deep snow, whether it's a summer or winter tire.
The tire won't be more damaged because it's a summer tire.
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

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no they don't...
The only difference between summer and winter tires are the depth of the prints. Adding a chain to the wheel will make it run in deep snow, whether it's a summer or winter tire.
The tire won't be more damaged because it's a summer tire.
Rubbish - winter tyres use different rubber compounds which will work well at providing grip in much lower temperatures.

See here for more info:
http://www.conti-online.com/generato...winter_en.html

In terms of using summer tyres and comfort, I think what was meant was that the wheels with chains would work fine, but the non-driven (and therefore non-chained) wheels, would be highly likely to slip such as when cornering, making the trip rather more adrenaline-inducing than necessary :-)

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no they don't...
The only difference between summer and winter tires are the depth of the prints. Adding a chain to the wheel will make it run in deep snow, whether it's a summer or winter tire.
The tire won't be more damaged because it's a summer tire.
Summer tyres have a harder rubber compound
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

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no they don't...
The only difference between summer and winter tires are the depth of the prints. Adding a chain to the wheel will make it run in deep snow, whether it's a summer or winter tire.
The tire won't be more damaged because it's a summer tire.

and the materials its made of and construction, apart from that they are the same
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As I am having issues getting my winter tyres delivered - I was wondering if it is possible to put chains on summer tyres? Would I get up a mountain?

look, I've seen your other thread about the company letting you down, but getting winter tyres isn't rocket science, even coop home and hobby sell them, cancel your online order, get your car down to your local garage (eg euromaster etc etc) and buy some

What the hell have you been using since Oct anyway??
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and the materials its made of and construction, apart from that they are the same
And the tread pattern that's designed to hold snow to enhance stiction.

But apart from that...
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Yes they do. Especially if it gets very cold.
Wrong way round. They'll not be very good for grip, but lower temps make them harder, so they'll wear less, not more. Now, winter tyres in the summer is a diffferent matter...
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

Put the chains on the front (FWD) - and car will feel very loose at the back when on snow/ice. More likely to oversteer.

Put the chains on the front (RWD) - you'll steer OK - but you'll have real problems gaining traction.

Put the chains on the rear (if you have RWD) - and you'll struggle to turn into corners.

My advice - if you don't have winter tyres - don't venture into the mountains - take the train!
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

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Close - but wrong.

If the rubber can't function properly it will slide. Sliding rubber is used more quickly than gripping rubber.
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Close - but wrong.

If the rubber can't function properly it will slide. Sliding rubber is used more quickly than gripping rubber.
No, it's not. If it's sliding it's because there's a very limited co-efficient of friction. It's the friction that gives grip, but without it there won't be any tyre wear either.
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

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My mistake you are right - as you can see this car whose tyres have lost grip aren't wearing out at all



If the tyre is sliding it is wearing out more quickly.
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Re: Using a chain on non-winter tyres?

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Put the chains on the front (FWD) - and car will feel very loose at the back when on snow/ice. More likely to oversteer.

Put the chains on the front (RWD) - you'll steer OK - but you'll have real problems gaining traction.

Put the chains on the rear (if you have RWD) - and you'll struggle to turn into corners.

My advice - if you don't have winter tyres - don't venture into the mountains - take the train!
Please if you do not have winter tyres, think very very carefully before venturing into the mountains where you might come across snow blizzards, black ice - You only have one life & the same goes for other traffic that is around you.
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