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Alloy wheels and MFK

I had my first MFK appointment this week, and the car failed.

If I'd changed back to summer tyres beforehand (and been on the VW original rims) I'd have passed, but as I was still on my winter tyres, which are on a set of alloys I bought in my first winter in 2007, I failed.

I understand from the MFK folk that if you buy non-standard (ie VW for VW) alloys as your additional set you are supposed to have a certificate from the manufacturer/importer of the wheels and have a check carried out at the MFK (and the details are then added to your grey car form). I had never done this.

I now have received the belated cert in the post, and need to make a second appointment for an extended test (40mins, CHF90) to get them approved.

Lesson learned - and shared. Hope it is helpful?
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Re: Alloy wheels and MFK

Thanks for telling us your experience.

More information is here, I'm confused about the eignungserklärung
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Re: Alloy wheels and MFK

This tip was first posted in 2005!!
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Re: Alloy wheels and MFK

Yep, as a newbie, I got stung for this a few years back on my 1st MFK.
Mine was even more anal - they said the official Audi rims I had my summers on were specified only for the 2.8 litre version of my car in Switzerland. Mine was a 2.4 litre version. It took about 5 mins for him to convince me he wasn't winding me up!
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Yep, as a newbie, I got stung for this a few years back on my 1st MFK.
Mine was even more anal - they said the official Audi rims I had my summers on were specified only for the 2.8 litre version of my car in Switzerland. Mine was a 2.4 litre version. It took about 5 mins for him to convince me he wasn't winding me up!
That's hilarious.

What if you have a base options car (no alu rims) and then you buy the official OEM rims that go with the same engine just more equipment level car, will that be OK or you have to get permission slip?
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That's hilarious.

What if you have a base options car (no alu rims) and then you buy the official OEM rims that go with the same engine just more equipment level car, will that be OK or you have to get permission slip?
No you don't need the slip. I got myself some original Audi S line rims that were larger than the ones my A4 came with, but sold with the same model as an option - no paper work needed and I am sure that was no coincidence as I asked the AMAG guy before the test.
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Re: Alloy wheels and MFK

Quick question: I scheduled a visit to STVA for ONLY the wheels test. I have the einigungserklaerung form already for the wheels, it's just not stamped by them.

Now I received an invitation to the test, but it states that also the engine bay must be cleaned and stuff. Does this mean they will do a full MFK even if I only care about the wheels? And if they don't do a full one, do they really check the engine bay? Or is this just the standard form they send, regardless of appointment type?
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Quick question: I scheduled a visit to STVA for ONLY the wheels test. I have the einigungserklaerung form already for the wheels, it's just not stamped by them.

Now I received an invitation to the test, but it states that also the engine bay must be cleaned and stuff. Does this mean they will do a full MFK even if I only care about the wheels? And if they don't do a full one, do they really check the engine bay? Or is this just the standard form they send, regardless of appointment type?
Jet wash the engine for sure.......
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Re: Alloy wheels and MFK

Damn...i was hoping I don't have to do that. Not a big fan of water under pressure hitting sensitive stuff under the bonnet. Any recommendations for a place to steam clean it instead? I seem to recall some booth at the ATU for MFK preparations...but I don't know how they clean it.
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Re: Alloy wheels and MFK

Been there, done that!! Now we know, eh?

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I had my first MFK appointment this week, and the car failed.

If I'd changed back to summer tyres beforehand (and been on the VW original rims) I'd have passed, but as I was still on my winter tyres, which are on a set of alloys I bought in my first winter in 2007, I failed.

I understand from the MFK folk that if you buy non-standard (ie VW for VW) alloys as your additional set you are supposed to have a certificate from the manufacturer/importer of the wheels and have a check carried out at the MFK (and the details are then added to your grey car form). I had never done this.

I now have received the belated cert in the post, and need to make a second appointment for an extended test (40mins, CHF90) to get them approved.

Lesson learned - and shared. Hope it is helpful?
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Damn...i was hoping I don't have to do that. Not a big fan of water under pressure hitting sensitive stuff under the bonnet. Any recommendations for a place to steam clean it instead? I seem to recall some booth at the ATU for MFK preparations...but I don't know how they clean it.
Just do it yourself at an car wash centre, it rains quite a lot in CH, and that goes under the bonnet!
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Just do it yourself at an car wash centre, it rains quite a lot in CH, and that goes under the bonnet!
With pressure??
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With pressure??
120km on the motorway, wheels turning I would say yes!
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Re: Alloy wheels and MFK

Just had an MFK last week and I switched to summer wheels specifically for this reason. Passed the test :-)

Guess I need to sort out a certificate and get it stamped before next winter.

So I need a certificate from the manufacturer (I guess I could try the company I bought the wheels from if I can find that info now). Then take this to the STV and have it stamped?
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Just had an MFK last week and I switched to summer wheels specifically for this reason. Passed the test :-)

Guess I need to sort out a certificate and get it stamped before next winter.

So I need a certificate from the manufacturer (I guess I could try the company I bought the wheels from if I can find that info now). Then take this to the STV and have it stamped?
You have to pay a fee & have it entered into the car papers. My motorbike has a different front brake & I paid an extra 20 CHF when it was registered in my name.
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What I don't get, with all the stamping, certifiying and deepscrubbing the engine, why is it, that as soon as it gets a little warmer or colder so many cars get stranded and won't start or overheat?
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Looks like you can get a cert from here:

http://www.alurad.ch/zertifikate.htm
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Damn...i was hoping I don't have to do that. Not a big fan of water under pressure hitting sensitive stuff under the bonnet. Any recommendations for a place to steam clean it instead? I seem to recall some booth at the ATU for MFK preparations...but I don't know how they clean it.
Buy an engine cleaner spray it all over and then wash it with a garden hose.. no high pressure. _That's what they do at the garage I go to, comes out sparkling clean.
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Re: Alloy wheels and MFK

Thanks for the advice, however I don't live in a house and can't see a way to use a garden hose from the apartment complex. I think I'll take it to ATU or something...
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Update: called STVA and they told me for just a wheels check (felgenpruefung) one DOES NOT need to clean the engine bay. Yay
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