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Old 05.04.2012, 12:10
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When choosing a bike, one thing to take note of: not sure about other cantons, but in SG, the minimum power requirements for the A exam is 35kW (47hp).

My first bike was a Suzuki Freewind, which was great to learn on, but only had 34.6kW. I had to rent another bike to do the exam, even though I was only 0.4kW shy of the minimum requirement.
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Hi there,

When riding around town I usually wear Draggin Jeans as they look like a normal pair of jeans yet offer more protection over ordinary jeans - http://www.dragginjeans.net/ . You might be ale to find something similar from different manufacturers.

i found that the majority of jeans only have the arse/knees protection, the rest is normal jean material and is shreaded as soon as it touches the ground - others have the full length protection but then are hot, they are also not waterproof or windproof - fine for a summers day but if its around 12 c then it gets real cold real quick.

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I would strongly advise against Polo. They seem to be very highly priced with poor selection of brand names.

You can also try Louis.de. They usually have OK prices but lots of stock. Or you could do what I do; Go to the shop, find the leathers/boots/gloves/helm etc that you like and then go online and search for a cheaper deal.
polo has higher quality clothing than louis in the own brand grouping - even the staff in my local louis megastore say so! polo own brand is made by Reusch and is top quality IMO. Held is another brand to look at.

they dont stock as many brand names as other stores as they carry drive/polo etc which is own branded and carry a 3 or 5 year warranty depending on the item - all on the label.

Looking deeply at the louis own brands leaves a lot to be desired i think, its feels and looks cheap and doesnt have useful features also only a 1 year warranty.

i have a pair of drive touring pants that i use heavily off road so its been abused a lot - no damage to stitching or material at all- that gets my vote.

HG is worth a look but they mainly have own brand items, the jackets are well made also.

+1 for the shop and internet search but its norm cheaper to buy in person and claim the MWST back.

here is mine, its used for whats its meant to do and isnt a sunny sunday bike


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Nice KTM. These two ride them. Which one is you?
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here is mine, its used for whats its meant to do and isnt a sunny sunday bike
Nor are mine:



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Re: Help for Motorbike Clothes / Helm

Hi

Will only echo the above advice that others have given. You are protecting yourself just in case, but still want to make sure its done properly.

We all ride in different gear depending on when and where. I ride to work during the summer, so it's leather jacket with jeans, but when we are out on our weekend rides, it's full 2 piece leather, boots, good gloves and decent helmet.

The advice about getting a helmet with built in sun visor that you can drop when it's sunny, and lift when you enter tunnels is good advice, I have 2 Nolans that have them and find them very helpful, especially as I'm a glasses wearer anyway.

Another place you can try for helmets and gear is 3w in Pfaffikon, ZH

Here is a link for their catalogue, so you can get an idea of prices and what they have, but would still go and have a look, as last years colours and styles are often still available but for a chaper price.

http://www.3w-motosport.ch/3W-Motosport/Katalog.php

Then, once you have your bike, come enjoy a ride with us :-)

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Re: Help for Motorbike Clothes / Helm

I like how this thread has evolved into a showcase of good advice as well as eye candy
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You'll learn that most bikers are happy to dispense advice when we can, and we just love showing off our machines :-)

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You'll learn that most bikers are happy to dispense advice when we can, and we just love showing off our machines :-)

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Ha, yes we do. Unfortunately, I found out the hard way that the Swiss police take a dim view on 'showing off'. It earned me a sit inside a police car to watch my 'showing off' which they had recorded on tape. They still let me off but with a warning.

Good tip to other bikers, car drivers and the like: Be extremely polite to the Police and you might just get a telling off instead of a ticket.
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By the way, I'm buying 10:30's bike
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I like how this thread has evolved into a showcase of good advice as well as eye candy
Well, I came here looking for advice on how to deal with feisty Portuguese EF members
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By the way, I'm buying 10:30's bike
Congrats on getting the bike sorted out. Now, once you have the kit, let us know when you want to come ride :-)

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Re: Help for Motorbike Clothes / Helm

some good advice on here. The biggest thing you'll want to get right is your helmet. Try lots on, don't rush. I've got a big head which is Shoei-shaped - I've had an XR900, RXR and now I have a Multitec.

The Multitec is the best of the three I've had in the last 10-15 years.

Next are boots and gloves. Waterproof boots help - I have several pairs of gloves as I ride for about 48 weeks per year.

Draggin' Jeans are good - they're kevlar and jean mixed with extra padding for the areas that are going to hit the ground first....you can also get armour to put into them but this makes it less comfy.

I've a two-piece set of leathers....hardly worn but I did use the jacket to skate along on my back a few years ago - you'd hardly notice.

Welcome to the club btw
I'm dedicated to shafties but I do fancy one of these:
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MMMMM bmw quality has dropped badly over the last years - i ditched mine due to issues.

its mainly the 1200 faults listed as i had one.


1200 series- the fuel pump controller fails leaving you dead with no warning.
1200 - final drive failures
1200 - key antenna ring fails
1200 - rh exhaust valve falls into the cylinder
1150/1200 - front casing corrodes badly
1200 - abs brake system fails
1200 - shaft drive UJ falls apart
1200 rear shock / ESA leaks
1200 swing arm cracks in half

f650 - front forks split and front wheel falls off - applies to current models also!
f650/800 rear wheel bearings fall apart at low mileage e.g. 2000
f650/800 chains snap - now fixed by recall and cheap chinese chain replaced.


premium prices for crap to put it bluntly.

the 1150 was prob the best version.
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Nice KTM. These two ride them. Which one is you?

none, they both have more hair and can cook better than me....

i surprise quite a few power rangers and "super cars" which is always fun, especially as its a big trailie on semi knobblies.

LASSEVH: This maybe the best bit of info you will ever get and something you should ALWAYS keep in mind.

Assume that you are invisible and NO ONE ever sees you - yes even the car driver that is looking straight at you and making eye contact.

keep this in mind and you should be fine.

I am a ATGATT rider (ALL THE GEAR ALL THE TIME) IE gloves, boots, trousers, jacket etc what you do is upto you - just be prepared.

Hi Vis is sometimes a sensitive subject amongst bike riders - do what you think is best, not what your mate says.

sometimes i have hi-vis sometimes not, all depends. If i am on a long motorway run i wear it as car drives hardly see you anyway.
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So while I have all the EF bikers looking at this thread; Does anyone have some 2 piece leather/Draggin' Jeans, boots or gloves they want to sell?

I'm 184 cm tall, and pretty average built (80 kg, 32/32 in jeans. Large, some times medium, in jacket, depending on brand)
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Re: Help for Motorbike Clothes / Helm

Hi

Sorry, afraid not from me.
Just for your info, you can find a lot of us bikers from here on Facebook, just look for EF Swiss bikers, thats our group page where we organise everything, we are pretty social once the weather gets better.

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( if you've got any suggestions for a good beginner bike at around 600cc, let me know )
If you haven't bought the bike yet I would suggest the Suzuki GS 500. It is a lot of bike for a beginner but it is forgiving, unlike most 600cc bike.

I usually wear just a helmet, a leather jacket and gloves. It seemed enough until I had to brake hard to avoid a head-on collision and went over the handlebars skinning both my knees, and banging up my elbows. The gloves saved my hands.

Have a good one

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Re: bikes:
Look out for an air-cooled Ducati Monster - 696 (2008) or 620 (wee bit underpowered) are good intro into "performance" bikes. A step up from the ER5's etc you'll have been riding until now.

Small, light, should be much cheaper 2nd hand, and should be a good match to CH roads. One reason I'm looking to chop in the Diavel for a 1100evo.
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I usually wear just a helmet, a leather jacket and gloves.
I know the swiss are liberal about nudity, but wouldn't you want to wear something on the bottom too...?
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