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Old 03.05.2012, 18:20
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Re: Avoiding the Gothard Tunnel

Thanks for the secret road I wil try it next time I need to travel on a weekend.

I use Gotthard twice a month and it is pretty much Ok as long as its not bank holidays. More annoying recently has been Lucerne
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Old 03.05.2012, 18:26
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Lukmanier Pass - the nicest way to go.
Thank you. Is this a scary precipitous road that wil have me grinding my teeth and wishing for the serenity of three hours of radio 4 podcasts in the traffic jam?
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Old 03.05.2012, 20:39
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Thank you. Is this a scary precipitous road that wil have me grinding my teeth and wishing for the serenity of three hours of radio 4 podcasts in the traffic jam?
No, it is probably the pass that one can ride quickest on.

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Re: Avoiding the Gothard Tunnel

You are right:

Kandersteg-Brig-Domodossola, crossing a tunnel with your car on a train.


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Another alternative is to take the Kandersteg-Brig-Domodossola (I think) train. You can load your car on it all the way to Italy. It would entail a lengthy drive to the Berner Oberland, but you end up right next to Lago Maggiore.
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They why would you even think of taking the Gottardo?

The Simplon pass is open all year, the Novena being the other (and, to Lugano, quicker) option from Brig.

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Novena is only open in Summer. The pass is one of the highest in Switzerland and single track in places...

I would go with Simplon if I were in Brig, or even the Grand St Bernard if you can stand the trucks...

Gotthard is to be avoided at all times unless the way over the top is open...
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Old 07.05.2012, 12:30
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It's also a really nice drive over the Simplon with fantastic views (if you choose not to take the train to Domodossola), followed by a nice little jaunt down the Centovalli towards Losone and Ascona.
Since you live near Thun (as I have been informed ), going via Brig is a no-brainer IMHO.
Agreed, as a Thuner, we do Kandersteg to Iselle direct on the car train. The views inside the tunnel are more limited than the passes, but better than the queues!
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