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Old 19.05.2012, 13:19
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Technical Blue Zone Research...where to look?

So yesterday I came up with a plan to get a larger SUV to tow my horse trailer and future sail boat around. My small little BMW station wagon just cant do the job, also because its too low to the ground. The only good things about the BMW is easy parking,excellent gas mileage and no one will steal it cause its the same color as the undercover Police in Bern. I will miss it. I would like to find out how a Ford F-250,Lincoln Navigator,Hummer H2 SuT, Chevy Tahoe/Avalanche/Silverado parks in cities like Bern. I looked into the height of my downstairs garage and even If i could fit under the roof...I can't fit in the circular ramp or small spots, so I decided to do the blue zone. Would it fit in the Blue Zone? Are there different size blue zones? If know one knows, tomorrow when the rain clears up I will drive around measuring blue zones and also different SUVS and post the total statistics on this forum for future searchers.
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Old 19.05.2012, 14:07
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Re: Technical Blue Zone Research...where to look?

not sure about blue zone, but in the past back in the UK I was talking (socially) to a traffic cop, and they were telling me that they see quite a lot of accidents with people using SUV's to tow trailers ... people forget that they have a higher CofG and as such are easier to tip over ... especially when towing a trailer. That said most of the vehicles you've listed are the big heavy workhorses rather than the light weight Chelsea tractors!

Might be worth considering something like the Audi All-road or the Volvo cross country they both have a higher ground clearance and a fair amount of torque that way you could have the best of both worlds!!
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Re: Technical Blue Zone Research...where to look?

I'm from Texas, and have a bit of experience with towing and driving large vehicles on small roads or off-road. I went ahead and bought a Navigator. It had enough power to put the sailboat in the water yesterday and it fits pretty much everywhere in Bern. I talked to a police officer the other day about the rules of parking in the blue zone. He said for such a vehicle if the road is too narrow then i'm allowed to park one side up on the curb giving enough room for pedestrians and other driver to continue on their way. I was also told that I can look online for a map of larger blue zones per quartier but have not found such a map. If anyone knows of such a map in existence please let me know! Thanks
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Re: Technical Blue Zone Research...where to look?

I think your list of choices is not so good for everyday use, they are too big/wide for Switzerland, it will really depend on the weight of the boat you intend to buy. If you can keep it under 3500kgs (including the trailer) then you open up a world of possibilities. I have a Nissan Navara double cab pickup and at at 5.7m long it is sometimes a problem to park but it's usefulness outweighs the disadvantages and has a legal tow capacity of 3500kgs and uses under 10l/100kms.
Some options to think about, Landrover/Rangerover, Jeep Wrangler, Nissan Navara/Pathfinder or as a mate of mine did when faced with offers of Chf3000 to fit a tow bar, he bought a Rangerover with fresh MFK off Ricardo for Chf1000 and changes the number plates when he needs it.
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Re: Technical Blue Zone Research...where to look?

A VW Touareg (the old V10 or the new V8 Diesel) can pretty much tow anything up to a 747 http://youtu.be/lhk3VRtU5Dk and it's not as big as the cars you mention. It's roughly the same size of a larger station wagon. Much easier to park than a Hummer
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I think your list of choices is not so good for everyday use, they are too big/wide for Switzerland, it will really depend on the weight of the boat you intend to buy. If you can keep it under 3500kgs (including the trailer) then you open up a world of possibilities. I have a Nissan Navara double cab pickup and at at 5.7m long it is sometimes a problem to park but it's usefulness outweighs the disadvantages and has a legal tow capacity of 3500kgs and uses under 10l/100kms.
Some options to think about, Landrover/Rangerover, Jeep Wrangler, Nissan Navara/Pathfinder or as a mate of mine did when faced with offers of Chf3000 to fit a tow bar, he bought a Rangerover with fresh MFK off Ricardo for Chf1000 and changes the number plates when he needs it.
I did look into some old Defender 90's and 110's but for everyday driving it really beats the hell out of you. I already got the boat and truck and everything seems to work well with our roads. What I like about the Navigator is it adjusts to road circumstances automatically and also adjusts its ride height when putting a boat into a lake with small boat ramps. I still want a Silverado but they are in the same price range as Porsche 911's and to me thats just ridiculous. I'll keep the Navigator for a bit and then maybe trade down to the new Ford ranger crew cab. So far I don't really have trouble driving in the smaller cities...just parking in garages is a bit of a trick. One thing that I do love is the parktronic sensors all around the car and the rear view camera. As long as you have the options for parking on your truck....you could maneuver a short bus
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