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motorbike laws for learners in geneva

Hello everyone, I'm coming back to Geneva in a few weeks from having been in Australia for several years. I decided to buy my self a motorbike to get around in the city and move around switzerland. I was wondering;
If I go to the "Service Des Auto" and get a provisional license will I be able to buy a bike right away or do I need the official license (e.g. can i buy a bike to do all my tests or do i need to rent)?

If I CAN buy the bike will I be able to have my girlfriend on the back while I'm holding the provisional license?

I used to race professionally in italy so handling the bike or passing the exams is not a worry I just don't really know the laws in regards to this matter...

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Luca
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If I CAN buy the bike will I be able to have my girlfriend on the back while I'm holding the provisional license?
I would put it in your pocket.
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Re: motorbike laws for learners in geneva

Yes, you can buy and register a vehicle without a license.

No, you cannot carry a passenger without a full license.

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Yes, you can buy and register a vehicle without a license.

No, you cannot carry a passenger without a full license.

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In detail: Either you or your passenger needs the full license.
Art. 27 Abs. 3 OCR
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Re: motorbike laws for learners in geneva

Thanks, was wondering about how a student driver was supposed to get used to a passenger for the test!

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Thanks, was wondering about how a student driver was supposed to get used to a passenger for the test!

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The instructor actually sits behind as pillion....during test.
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The instructor actually sits behind as pillion....during test.
Yes, but presumably they need practice before the test, and thus wondered how that would be possible, now it's clear.

Also, that's only for large bikes, for small bikes the tester uses a separate bike.

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In detail: Either you or your passenger needs the full license.
Art. 27 Abs. 3 OCR
And the passenger must have the license since two years if the driver is on a learner's permit.
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Re: motorbike laws for learners in geneva

I just (half an hour ago) saw one guy (learner) with someone on pillion (assuming an instructor), and another instructor on a second bike following him behind solo.

Being this late (18:00) I don't think it is a test.
It is probably a training session.

I noticed them coz the learner was on a new Honda NC700x, now why was I interested?
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And the passenger must have the license since two years if the driver is on a learner's permit.
Incorrect, twice.
First, this rule only applies to cars (voitures automobiles/Motorwagen).
Second, the passenger must have the license for at least three years and must be older than 23.

See Art 15. Abs. 2 LCR

For motorcycles just a valid full license is needed. No age or time restrictions.
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