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The average driver moves at the speed limit because the speed limit is based on the average driver.
Actually the current European-wide speed limits originate in the energy crisis in the 1970es and have been imposed with a view to cutting oil consumption.

Hence you should actually reverse your argument - the average driver drives at or around the speed limit because that's what the limit is...

But don't let facts distract you from your discussion
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Old 13.06.2012, 14:34
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My dad's MG Montego had a digital speedometer (that also spoke to you) in the early 1980s.
It probably spoke to him...once. And still gave him the wrong speed. That's if it even started.
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for what it's worth, a colleague of mine got a speeding ticket on his bicycle last year... i wonder how many lives he would have killed had they just let him ride his upright bicycle to work that day?!?!?!
Groan if you want, but I aspire to this. I'm pretty sure I can set off the 50's in Neuheim, if I try a bit harder...

Joking aside: how *do* they prosecute bikes, if there are no markings to indicate who the rider is?
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Old 13.06.2012, 15:20
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It probably spoke to him...once. And still gave him the wrong speed. That's if it even started.
I think the voice module was turned off within an hour of getting the car and never turned on again, ever.
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Old 13.06.2012, 15:31
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Re: I'm taking a speeding beatdown

In related news...the last time we debated speeding we got to 10 pages. Are we on target to better this?
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Groan if you want, but I aspire to this. I'm pretty sure I can set off the 50's in Neuheim, if I try a bit harder...

Joking aside: how *do* they prosecute bikes, if there are no markings to indicate who the rider is?
in this case they literally stopped him in the street
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In related news...the last time we debated speeding we got to 10 pages. Are we on target to better this?
i was hoping by page 7 someone would have offered to drive me around in my car so I got out of getting any tickets ... well, that is providing they didn't speed while in my car
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Old 13.06.2012, 17:51
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...but 16+ kph is getting towards "reckless disregard".
so in your life, never once have you gone 16kph over the limit? Really? This is amazing, you must be a saint. I imagine, as I read the replies, you are in a very small club of perfect citizens of state. i humbly thank you for taking your such perfect time to tell me how reckless I am.... especially since it is clear you skipped over the comments I have made multiple times regarding riding within the flow of traffic.

now, I am certain you know that in the US, in many states like the one I am from, it is also punishable to disrupt the flow of traffic. That is to say, if there is a group of cars going 10 mph over the speed limit, and you take an extreme to that (say right at the speed limit), there is a good chance you will be pulled over.

ok.. so don't forget to tell me, I am not in the US.. but I suspect you know that isn't what I mean
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Old 13.06.2012, 17:54
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Should you live near a main road and experience noise pollution you'd know how antisocial speeding can be. Consideration is in short supply and those moaning about speed limits can HTFU or get out.

Sorry, HTFU is a bit strong. 'Grow Up' is more appropriate.
I didn't read people complaining about how the speed limits, but more about how harsh it is once photographed going over...

but, HTFU is perfectly fine... im rubber, you're glue

how is that for grown up?
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Old 13.06.2012, 18:13
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This wasn't the argument! The argument was whether people drive at a speed according to their own comfort level or whether they drive at a speed relative to those around them.
You know, I think I have a better idea about what's going on in my head and the point I was making with that post.

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The average driver moves at the speed limit because the speed limit is based on the average driver.
Sorry, but you posting something from Texas isn't going to convince me of that point. I just don't agree that speed limits are based on average driver speed. That to me is just a load of bull.
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Re: I'm taking a speeding beatdown

Try www.scdb.info

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Re: I'm taking a speeding beatdown

I always respected Swiss traffic regulations and
Living almost 5 years in Switzerland, I got ticketed only once and that was not in Switzerland !! was in south German Autobahn, driving 120 km/h in a 100 km/h zone (which I am sure that was only for 500 meters long)
and the fine I received with a nice letter was only 10 euros... TEN EUROS !!

I think the same thing in Switzerland would cost quite expensive (driving +20 km/h exceeding the limit)
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Old 13.06.2012, 23:19
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My dad's MG Montego had a digital speedometer (that also spoke to you) in the early 1980s.
I think MG Montego still holds the unofficial world record in depreciation

From "a lot" to "almost nothing" in a very short time.
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I think MG Montego still holds the unofficial world record in depreciation

From "a lot" to "almost nothing" in a very short time.
Doesn't the running joke go that if you drove a brand new rover off the Cliffs of Dover, its depreciation would mean it would be worth nothing before it hit the sea below?
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I think MG Montego still holds the unofficial world record in depreciation

From "a lot" to "almost nothing" in a very short time.
I think buying it seemed like a good idea at the time (a very short time).
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Re: I'm taking a speeding beatdown

little update for all...

seems the speeding is getting under control, i only got one more ticket since this thread, for 57 in a 50. So, that is 5 in 8 weeks.

I have been using CC on the highways as much as possible and as I mentioned in earlier posts just keeping with the flow, which I generally always do.

I also downloaded the suggestion from another to update my TomTom, but to date, while I have seen them show up on the device a few times, I don't trust it nor rely on it.
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little update for all...

seems the speeding is getting under control, i only got one more ticket since this thread, for 57 in a 50. So, that is 5 in 8 weeks.

I have been using CC on the highways as much as possible and as I mentioned in earlier posts just keeping with the flow, which I generally always do.

I also downloaded the suggestion from another to update my TomTom, but to date, while I have seen them show up on the device a few times, I don't trust it nor rely on it.
5 in 8 weeks!? Wow, that's rough. I've yet to get a ticket...knock on wood.
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5 in 8 weeks!? Wow, that's rough. I've yet to get a ticket...knock on wood.
Yeah, I got off to a bad start. Where I come from (North Jersey next to NYC), it was mandatory to go 15 otl just to keep up. I am doing much better now and I am hoping in a matter of time, I stop getting those lovely letters in the mail from the police
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little update for all...

seems the speeding is getting under control, i only got one more ticket since this thread, for 57 in a 50. So, that is 5 in 8 weeks.

I have been using CC on the highways as much as possible and as I mentioned in earlier posts just keeping with the flow, which I generally always do.

I also downloaded the suggestion from another to update my TomTom, but to date, while I have seen them show up on the device a few times, I don't trust it nor rely on it.
Somehow, I can see where this is going
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so in your life, never once have you gone 16kph over the limit? Really? This is amazing, you must be a saint. I imagine, as I read the replies, you are in a very small club of perfect citizens of state. i humbly thank you for taking your such perfect time to tell me how reckless I am.... especially since it is clear you skipped over the comments I have made multiple times regarding riding within the flow of traffic.

now, I am certain you know that in the US, in many states like the one I am from, it is also punishable to disrupt the flow of traffic. That is to say, if there is a group of cars going 10 mph over the speed limit, and you take an extreme to that (say right at the speed limit), there is a good chance you will be pulled over.

ok.. so don't forget to tell me, I am not in the US.. but I suspect you know that isn't what I mean
Not strictly true .. you would probably only get pulled over if you sticking rigidly to the speed limit in the left lane rather than keeping to the right except to overtake.

That said however I've yet to be in a country where people follow this rule and I dare we have all been guilty of not keeping to the right at one time or other
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