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Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH

So go over with us and the pets and personal bits, ask for a 15.30 at the border?
Fully comp with Stuart Collins by chance? I'm just about to have to renew insurance anyway within a week, its up for renewal
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ask for a 15.30 at the border?
That's what I've been told is the correct procedure. I didn't, and nearly got a fine 9 months later. I also heard someone complain that customs made them pay a deposit because they hadn't got their permit from the Gemeinde yet, but everyone's experience is slightly different.

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Fully comp with Stuart Collins by chance?
That's the only one I've found. Tell us if you find another one, as its always good to have some competition.
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I've emailed them for a quote tonight
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Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH

When you bring vehicles over as personal possessions in the first 12 months with house contents etc, provided you have owned them for over 6 months, is there an issue bringing over several, vehicles, say 4 or so? I am thinking about the import duty, scrap payment, etc, rather than actually having them ready for the MFK. They are all classic bikes/cars, and wouldn't be immediately put into service.
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When you bring vehicles over as personal possessions in the first 12 months with house contents etc, provided you have owned them for over 6 months, is there an issue bringing over several, vehicles, say 4 or so? I am thinking about the import duty, scrap payment, etc, rather than actually having them ready for the MFK. They are all classic bikes/cars, and wouldn't be immediately put into service.
that would be no problem. no duty
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I recommend asking for a form 15.30 at the border, as that gives you 2yrs to make your mind up. If you want fully comp insurance, then you'll have to change insurer as Swiss insurers wont insure you until you import, and I only found 1 UK insurer that does 12 months continuous European cover.
Thats not entirely correct...To be verified, I think 15.30 is the form about temporary importation. If so, the information below is valid.

It's valid 1 year, renewable one time. So the total is 2 years. Which implies several trips to the customs + additional administrative fees (minor fee).

Additionally, since it's then temporary export, you'll get all the joy associated with it:
-You'll be seen by everyone as having kind of foreigner plates or at least not proper Swiss. Which might attract vandalism from lunatics

-Each border crossing you might lose time due to inspections

-Insurance will likely be more expensive, since again, they're not "normal" plates.

-With that type of import, one needs a Swiss Insurance

There are some positive aspects around it, but let's not go there now.

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Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH

No, you're wrong. Customs/Strassenverkehrsamt have only asked me to complete the form once, and when I enquiried about the possibility of extending it to a 3rd year they said no, but furthermore confirmed that their records show my 15.30 expires this year (2yrs after I entered). It only costs CHF20 (or was.it 30, it was over a year ago, so I can't remember exactly, but.it was.chicken feed compared to other Swiss fees)

You must live in a village full of SVP xenophobes, as I've never encountered any such problems in Zürich.

Never had any issues with customs crossing the border either, apart from that one time before I got the 15.30

You are correct on 1 point, insurance is expensive as there is only 1 UK insurer willing to provide fully comp for vehicles outside the UK for more than 6months/year.
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No, you're wrong.
I'm not wrong because I specified "to be verified" and only if 15.30 is temporary import.
I had a look but it's complex, maybe the 15.30 is not the form for "temporary importation" or there is another variation.

I did find info on 15.30, which seems to confirm it's the one without Swiss plate. In that case, like I said, then what I said its not relevant.

I did "temporary importation" in Switzerland, it was up to 2 years.
It could be a variation of the above, maybe the 15.30 is about a non resident or temporary resident in CH?

I do know there's a form to "temporarily import" the car in CH, with the rules I said.
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Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH

Import/Usage and registration/plates are two pair of shoes.
The first is pure federal customs law, the later is cantonal road tax law.

Form 15.30 permits the use of a non-taxed vehicle in CH. It is not about registration and plates.
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Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH

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Import/Usage and registration/plates are two pair of shoes.
The first is pure federal customs law, the later is cantonal road tax law.

Form 15.30 permits the use of a non-taxed vehicle in CH. It is not about registration and plates.
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There was a scenario where it was mandatory to register the car. For that there was a temporary importation form to be done, valid 1 year, and optionally renewable once.

I can't check the details now, but that might still be important for the person asking about importing their vehicle, or temporarily using it.

Might worth to check beyond the 15.30!
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You are correct on 1 point, insurance is expensive as there is only 1 UK insurer willing to provide fully comp for vehicles outside the UK for more than 6months/year.
Who might that be then?
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Import/Usage and registration/plates are two pair of shoes.
The first is pure federal customs law, the later is cantonal road tax law.

Form 15.30 permits the use of a non-taxed vehicle in CH. It is not about registration and plates.
Just so you know (and not to take anything away from your post, which as always is absolutely correct and helpful), the word "taxed" in UK parlance and in the context of cars actually refers to what you and I call "registration". Paying the annual fee for using your UK-domiciled car is called "taxing" your car.

So when you say "...permits the use of a non-taxed vehicle in CH", some UK folk could get a little confused. Of course, in CH, unregistered ("untaxed" in UK-speak) vehicles are generally NOT permitted to be used on public roads.

In the UK, incidentally, the annual tax (registration fee) is based on engine size for older cars (pre-1 March 2001) and on CO2 emissions and fuel type (post-28 February 2001).
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Just wondering

Is it better to go through the border at night or weekend (avoid getting check so they dont know the car is in here) or get a vignette and act like a tourist if I am not planning to register? (Got a meaningful plate and would like to keep it. Another thing is to let people know that I'm on the other side so they understand why I am taking longer time in a certain situation.)

Cheers.

I use my UK registered car in CH, never registered it, have a vignette, keep it clean and generally only use it in the summer. My plates aren't special I just choose not to switch them.....however, I have a CH driving licence and still have my UK licence as I had two due to changes of address in the UK before coming here.....so I figure if I'm stopped I just show the UK licence and play the tourist.
I've never been stopped and obey the speed limit....I do that anyway in my CH registered car....three years, no speeding fines.......
I would suggest getting a vignette as I've never been stopped at the border with one on display even when it's been over-manned, they assume I'm a tourist I guess.
Also, I return to the UK about every 5 or 6 weeks, so its easier to keep it insured; taxed and MOT'd from the UK.
I may now consider a two year import as I'm likely to be here for only that amount of time left....of course it will be the first time my car has been in CH officer :-)
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I use my UK registered car in CH, never registered it, have a vignette, keep it clean and generally only use it in the summer. My plates aren't special I just choose not to switch them.....however, I have a CH driving licence and still have my UK licence as I had two due to changes of address in the UK before coming here.....so I figure if I'm stopped I just show the UK licence and play the tourist.
I've never been stopped and obey the speed limit....I do that anyway in my CH registered car....three years, no speeding fines.......
I would suggest getting a vignette as I've never been stopped at the border with one on display even when it's been over-manned, they assume I'm a tourist I guess.
Also, I return to the UK about every 5 or 6 weeks, so its easier to keep it insured; taxed and MOT'd from the UK.
I may now consider a two year import as I'm likely to be here for only that amount of time left....of course it will be the first time my car has been in CH officer :-)
You can do whatever you like if you never get caught. If you gave up your UK licence when you get a Swiss one then UK do deregister you. That doesn't mean you have no UK licence just that it's contained in your Swiss one. If you have effectively dual residency then I think it can get complicated with plates etc.
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I use my UK registered car in CH, never registered it, have a vignette, keep it clean and generally only use it in the summer. My plates aren't special I just choose not to switch them.....however, I have a CH driving licence and still have my UK licence as I had two due to changes of address in the UK before coming here.....so I figure if I'm stopped I just show the UK licence and play the tourist.
I've never been stopped and obey the speed limit....I do that anyway in my CH registered car....three years, no speeding fines.......
I would suggest getting a vignette as I've never been stopped at the border with one on display even when it's been over-manned, they assume I'm a tourist I guess.
Also, I return to the UK about every 5 or 6 weeks, so its easier to keep it insured; taxed and MOT'd from the UK.
I may now consider a two year import as I'm likely to be here for only that amount of time left....of course it will be the first time my car has been in CH officer :-)
Big trouble, if the Swiss police check the UK license they will see it's not valid. Expect to be summoned before a Judge on serious criminal charges.

You also may be fined by the customs for smuggling a car, your liable to 5 x the actual tax payable. As a Swiss resident you need to declare any foreign car you import.

Have you told you UK insurers your non resident? If not your not actually insured as you have withheld a material fact.
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Yep, I'm aware of the risk.....I'm dabbling with the idea of either now importing it......or leaving it at my house in the UK...think I've driven about 80km this year...hasn't left the garage and has become just an object to to occasionally admire...heyho!
Thanks for your thoughts though...Worth thinking about.
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If you're dual resident and the car is more than six months outside of Switzerland then you might not need to register it on Swiss plates. You'll surely need to get approval and/or declare it somehow. Could be worth investigating.
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That's a possibility...as I am indeed duel resident.
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I use my UK registered car in CH, never registered it, have a vignette, keep it clean and generally only use it in the summer. Mi NJMy plates aren't special I just choose not to switch them.....however, I have a CH driving licence and still have my UK licence as I had two due to changes of address in the UK before coming here.....so I figure if I'm stopped I just show the UK licence and play the tourist.
I've never been stopped
I recently went online to check the details for my UK licence and can tell you that after the Swiss send your license back to the UK for surrender, the DVLA no longer records your details (at least on any public system), so you can be prosecuted for driving license fraud. You'll probably get away with not having a license as you have a Swiss one, but then that will provoke an investigation into customs fraud.

Also, crossing the border at night doesn't help. Customs did a random stop check on me at 4am on a Sunday night/Monday morning.
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Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH

hello,
found this forum and I'd like to ask for an advice, because I'm confused.

I have a 3-year old car which is registered in SVK (EU) to my mother (different surname) from the beginning. But I am the only driver and I was always driving it, I have a written confirmation that I am allowed to use this car without restrictions since it's been bought. car has a COC certificate

now, I am planning to move to Switzerland in October 2016. I will not manage to have the car registered to my name for 6 months, it's July (job offer cannot wait 6 months). When I asked, swiss Customs said it's not a problem. it's possible to take this car with me and provide a written confirmation from the owner, that I have been using the car since 2013 - on the border. So I can take it with me like a piece of furniture and use it on SVK plates for 1 year after move. So far so good.

but I have plans to keep the car, that means, for more than 1 year. I want to do everything legally and register the car on swiss number plates within 1 year.
-If I re-register the car to my name now, I will not be the owner for 6 months and I will have to pay import taxes/duties.
- if I leave it registered to my mother, how can I register her car for swiss number plates in switzerland to my name?

could you please advise?
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