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Kalpz 03.08.2012 15:27

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
this may be slightly off topic, but to buy a car in CH do you need a Swiss Driving license or should it not matter?

saint7uk 04.08.2012 00:37

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
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Originally Posted by Cambo351 (Post 1625318)
Insurance for the drive from England to Switzerland was by my current Swiss insurer, die Mobiliar. I already had one car insured with them, as well as my home contents.

I literally just phoned up the agent, told him what I was doing, and he organised the temporary cover.

I did need to provide all information about the car; make, model, colour, build date, engine, VIN, etc, they emailed a confirmation that afternoon that the car was insured for the drive.

Mind you, I didn't ask them, I told them, maybe that makes a difference.

Really? And you told them it was on UK plates?

Did they get specific UK underwriting on a temp basis? Or just add it to one of your policies?

Cambo351 04.08.2012 07:42

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Yes it was very clear that the car was on UK plates. I even gave them the plate number. I'd have to dig up the paperwork, but as I recall it was a new policy, not related to the other car.

I don't know how they did it from their side, but i asked for a confirmation in writing that the car was insured for the drive UK to Switzerland, and I got it.

Chris77 10.08.2012 11:46

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Originally Posted by Jern (Post 1621344)
Thanks for this post. You said that you had to pay CHF1600 for VAT and customs fees. Do you know how this is calculated? I have an old car in UK which I would like to import. It's worth very little, but I'm afraid I might get stung for disproportionate VAT/csutoms charges.

4% Automobile duty (based on the value of the car) + Customs duty based on the weight of the car (CHF 15 per 100kg) + VAT at 8% (on the combined total, i.e. car value + automobile duty + customs duty)

In addition an "emissions penalty" has also been introduced (from 1 July this year) for imported cars. My understanding is that for second hand cars which have been registered for more than 6 months this is not an issue.

However, if you are buying and importing a new car there is a sliding scale charge based on the amount of CO2 emitted. Can get pretty hefty if you are buying a performance car.

http://www.bfe.admin.ch/themen/00507...x.html?lang=en

Cambo351 10.08.2012 15:56

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Thanks I'd forgotten about the 15 CHF per 100kg...explains the "additional fees" i couldn't account for.

Yes the "sliding scale charge based on the amount of CO2 emitted" only applies to new cars as discussed here http://www.englishforum.ch/transport...ting-soon.html otherwise i'd have been up the creek with a tree-killing 4.2L Supercharged V8 with 400PS...:D

justchris 28.08.2012 22:20

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
I am thinking of buying an Amorak in Austria or Germany but not sure if its possible. I will lease it and have a residents permission in both places. I work in Austria and live in Swiss. Wife is Swiss and works here. Any one have any thoughts on this. Great Truck, Good fuel economy, Fun to drive! Want to see if I can make it work!

Thanks All,

Christopher

djinns 30.08.2012 09:22

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Does anybody has experince in buying a second had car fro a dealer in Germany or France? Can you get the VAT back at the swiss border if you paid it in germany or france while buying the second hand car?

this would make a big difference as the VAT is 19% in Germany

Dr Vit 11.09.2012 16:09

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Originally Posted by djinns (Post 1649656)
Does anybody has experince in buying a second had car fro a dealer in Germany or France? Can you get the VAT back at the swiss border if you paid it in germany or france while buying the second hand car?

this would make a big difference as the VAT is 19% in Germany

That's a very good question. Also, what taxes/duties on the Swiss side does it imply? I've read several posts but still not clear whether it's worth the whole hassle as 8 % tax plus 4 % customs fee plus CO2 duty may offset all benefits...Or am I missing something?

rob1 11.09.2012 17:00

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
if the car is older than 6 months the co2 tax doesnt apply

Dr Vit 11.09.2012 17:17

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
What about a German VAT? Is it possible to claim it back for used cars? Thanks

rob1 11.09.2012 17:33

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
From a dealer yes, from a private person no

Guest 11.09.2012 17:52

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
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Originally Posted by Cambo351 (Post 1595875)
They made the UK Export Document, and the Swiss Import Document.
CHF 150 and 20 minutes later I had the papers. They had made the Declaration of Origin too. "Jaguar is from England right?" "Yes my dear"

Very useful post, thanks, but not sure why you needed to pay for the export?

When I bought my car in I got a French export stamp from the desk the French side of the Zoll office, for free, before taking the car documents to the Swiss side to get the import form.

The only charge was 20 CHF's for the Swiss Import form which I then took to the police station to register the car so that I can now finish the import (or take it back and sell it in England) within the next 12 months.

Dr Vit 11.09.2012 18:16

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
It looks like people here have some experience in it. I am thinking of buying a used car. My options are
1. to buy it in Switzerland
2. to buy it in Germany and then pay Swiss tax and claim back the German tax.
Has anyone compared these options and what would be the preferred one? Is it supported by any sort of calculations?
Thanks

rob1 11.09.2012 18:17

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
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Originally Posted by cran (Post 1660471)
Very useful post, thanks, but not sure why you needed to pay for the export?

When I bought my car in I got a French export stamp from the desk the French side of the Zoll office, for free, before taking the car documents to the Swiss side to get the import form.

The only charge was 20 CHF's for the Swiss Import form which I then took to the police station to register the car so that I can now finish the import (or take it back and sell it in England) within the next 12 months.


i wondered about that also.

i brought mine in thru the main basel/weil border. i filled in the paperwork at the swiss desk, went downstairs to the german desk who stamped the swiss form and that it.

Guest 08.10.2012 15:40

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
If you are bringing a car for which you already have UK insurance you are covered 3rd party in Europe anyway, and fully comp if your policy includes European cover (but limited to number of days per trip).

When getting the Certificate of Conformity find the contact details of your cars manufacturer and email them direct.

The cheapest I found for mine searching on line was 150 but a quick email to VAG group and they sent me a form to fill in with the vehicle chassis number and my address etc, and then less than a week later I had my CoC delivered to my address in Switzerland for a grand total of 25...

Cambo351 08.10.2012 17:17

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cran (Post 1660471)
Very useful post, thanks, but not sure why you needed to pay for the export?

When I bought my car in I got a French export stamp from the desk the French side of the Zoll office, for free, before taking the car documents to the Swiss side to get the import form.

The only charge was 20 CHF's for the Swiss Import form which I then took to the police station to register the car so that I can now finish the import (or take it back and sell it in England) within the next 12 months.

I can only assume it was because the car was exported from the UK, but the German Zoll had to make the stamp? In your case the car was exported from France & the French Customs stamped it. I dunno...the Swiss Zoll told me I needed an export document and the agent made it for me.

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Originally Posted by cran (Post 1683402)
If you are bringing a car for which you already have UK insurance you are covered 3rd party in Europe anyway, and fully comp if your policy includes European cover (but limited to number of days per trip).

That's if you already owned the car, or a UK citizen or resident, and you can get an insurance policy in the UK. In my case being Australian & a Swiss resident, & only just having bought the car, UK insurance was not a practical option. Sure I could have found someone to temporarily insure me in the UK, but it was easy enough to get my Swiss insurer to do it, didn't cost me anything extra either.

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Originally Posted by cran (Post 1683402)
When getting the Certificate of Conformity find the contact details of your cars manufacturer and email them direct.

The cheapest I found for mine searching on line was 150 but a quick email to VAG group and they sent me a form to fill in with the vehicle chassis number and my address etc, and then less than a week later I had my CoC delivered to my address in Switzerland for a grand total of 25...

You are correct, but JLR head office in Coventry charged 100, I didn't bother asking Emil Frey, since they would be a middle man who'd a) put a mark up on it & b) take even longer to provide the document.

Guest 08.10.2012 19:08

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
fully comp yes, but if you have insurance you are covered 3rd party in Europe without a restriction on days as far as I know.

Mine (with LV) was 180 days which was ok as I went back to the UK at least twice a year and just drove with 3rd party cover when I didn't.

Other policies may be different, or I might be wrong, but my understanding is that you have liability insurance regardless as long as your UK insurance hasn't expired.

Guest 08.10.2012 19:10

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
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Originally Posted by Cambo351 (Post 1683512)
I can only assume it was because the car was exported from the UK, but the German Zoll had to make the stamp? In your case the car was exported from France & the French Customs stamped it.

No, my car was exported from the UK.

The French Customs stamped it because I needed an export from EU to import to Switzerland.

They do it all the time for UK people importing possessions and/or vehicles in to Swiss. Same at the German/Swiss border.

rob1 09.10.2012 09:41

Mine was also from the UK. As I went DE>CH I need the export document stamped by DE. the Swiss office gave me everything I needed and it was done within about 20 mins Inc waiting in line. If an agent does it then there will be a fee as it's normally quicker.

Cambo351 09.10.2012 11:51

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
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Originally Posted by cran (Post 1683610)
No, my car was exported from the UK.

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Originally Posted by rob1 (Post 1683979)
Mine was also from the UK.

OK but did you previously own the car in the UK? i.e. the import was part of moving a household? Maybe that's the difference...


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