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babaroga 14.08.2013 11:06

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
I have just moved to Switzerland with my family. I have been here since 14 June, and we moved all our belongings on 9 August. I have declared two of our cars on 18.44 form and lorry driver had that form stamped, owever, there is written "reserve" next to both cars.

I have not been at customs office on entry to CH border due to arriving late at 22:00 with kids sleeping.....

What do I need to do next? We have owned those two cares for many years and I need to get them registerred on CH plates. Also, UK insurance will only last for another month and a half, hence need to act quite swiftly.

Can anyone help me on this?

Regards
Darko

babaroga 15.08.2013 09:08

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Here is a link from Comparis....seems to be a bit more details about my situation. Everything else stated in the original post stays and is very useful.

http://en.comparis.ch/immigration/in...-fahrzeug.aspx

rob1 15.08.2013 09:15

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The import process is very easy and simple as is the registration process if you have a standard car, modified can be harder depending on what and to what extent.

The comparis guide is a good overview, I however have no clue about the reserve written on the form though.


Do you have a form only for the cars with a stammnummer field and a customs zoll stamp ? - can't remember the form number sorry but maybe 13.20

babaroga 15.08.2013 09:41

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
If I have a chance I shall scan it and post it here. Also alongside 18.44 form there was a separate list of household items like beds, wardrobes etc.... The cars themselves are declared on 18.44 form itself. I have third car and I have not decided wether to import it yet, however, if I do not sell it in UK, I might bring it here as well, have a year to do so....

Cata1yst 15.08.2013 20:53

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Originally Posted by babaroga (Post 1951337)
If I have a chance I shall scan it and post it here. Also alongside 18.44 form there was a separate list of household items like beds, wardrobes etc.... The cars themselves are declared on 18.44 form itself. I have third car and I have not decided wether to import it yet, however, if I do not sell it in UK, I might bring it here as well, have a year to do so....

Inland customs ASAP or to the border crossing that can produce the paperwork, (13.20A) is the magic form. This gives you the stamm number you need for CH insurance. Expect to pay more than the locals as you're a dirty foreigner.

Zurich has inland customs if you're moving there. ;)

UK insurance is technically invalid after you become resident in CH so if it's about to expire renew it. To give you more time to import the car.

COC someone mentioned depends on the model, you don't need it if it's common but depends on the day/canton as to how interested they are in it. If it's Zug ensure you have it they are a PITA for paperwork/ box ticking.

Abgas is not required for cars which have a OBD2 port (Quote Zug Car inspection guys) newer than around year 2000 you should be okay.

3rd car do not leave, as you'll find you cannot legally insure it, second problem if you leave it too long you cannot import it as household goods. 18 months I believe = large tax bill rather than 0 chf.

You will need the V5's for both cars. Bill of sale will help faster production of a 13.20A in the customs office.

Modified cars can be done but every part which is not standard will require a DTC form which proves the part change is "legal" in CH, or you may get lucky and they don't notice ;)

babaroga 15.08.2013 23:08

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Thanks Catal1st.

Now, where do I find "inland customs" is a first question.

I got COC from one of our cars which is Mercedes, and that one is euro 4, 2006.

For Land Rover, I am a bit worried, as it is v8 4.0 Discovery 2 made in 1999. Still has OBD2 port though, but it is Euro 2 emissions level.

Third car is also Land Rover Disco 2, only made in 2000. Also, the reason for not getting third car is that Land Rover issues COC per car and charge approx 130 per car, then it would cost me another 750 or so to go to UK and drive it here plus lost weekend. Also, I just do not need third car here, hence I have given it to my brother for now to do whatever he likes with it.

Regards
Darko

babaroga 15.08.2013 23:09

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Just to add that we live in St. Gallen canton, but I work in Zurich.

Cata1yst 19.08.2013 14:14

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Zurich Inland customs = here

http://www.ezv.admin.ch/dienstleistu...Nzg%3D&lang=de

OBD2 is related to the "abgas" or emissions test requirement, not the COC. OBD2 = No abgas test.

You can drive down and ask the friendly MFK guys if they want a COC for the car as you are missing it. (Leading Q and they probably will answer yes, best to ask what paperwork you need!) The COC is used to work out IF it is acceptable under Swiss standard. Similar to UK "type approval"

Regardless of the 130 quid, if they need it you will pay.

I've paid for x3 now so feel your pain here. (They also take time to arrive so I'd ask politely and quickly!)

fatmanfilms 19.08.2013 14:25

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I suspect you can only import 1 car tax free per person, the car has to have been registered for at least 6 months before moving here.

babaroga 19.08.2013 17:36

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
If you are moving to CH and bringing all of your belongings at the same time, then there is no limit on how many cars you can bring, as long as you have had them for more than 6 months. If less than 6 months, then you pay 8% VAT + 4% import duty and a few other things. All you have to do is to declare them on separate page. I have checked that one out already. Even if I have not imoported my third car, I can do it wihtin my first year of staying here, only you would have to fill in some more paperwork and pay for that paperwork to be stamped (still trying to find out what paperwork)....

davebergie 09.09.2013 12:38

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6 year old Zafira. How do I establish the value of it for import duty purposes?

babaroga 12.09.2013 13:44

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OK, finally I have registered cars with Swiss Customs. It costs 20CHF per car. You need to go there with all car's paperwork, 18.44 form and your passport and B permit document (or whatever other visa you hold).

In Zurich, customs office address is:

Zollinspektorat Zurich
Luggwegstrasse 9
8048 Zurich

Zentrale Tel: 044 497 88 00
Fahrzeuge Tel. 044 497 88 07


I have now received a letter from Sankt Gallen STVA with list of papers required to get cars registerred. None of those requests needs EU Certificate of conformity.

Regards

symphara 12.09.2013 14:10

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
I need to import my car and I can no longer find the bill of sale. However the UK registration clearly shows that I had it for longer than 6 months. Am I going to have a problem with this?

defcon3 01.10.2013 09:54

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I came across this lovely short film explaining the steps, authored by the Swiss Customs Agency

For all who search before they ask, enjoy ;)


babaroga 01.10.2013 10:37

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Originally Posted by symphara (Post 1973853)
I need to import my car and I can no longer find the bill of sale. However the UK registration clearly shows that I had it for longer than 6 months. Am I going to have a problem with this?


Nobody has asked me bor bills of sale, however, I have read somewhere that you can even make one yourself. There are blank contract available for download on The AA website for selling private vehicles, so fill one in yourself it it comes to the worst.

deanobennetto 07.02.2014 08:12

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Originally Posted by Cambo351 (Post 1595875)
Nice thread from Mahmed http://www.englishforum.ch/transport...mport-car.html but this is if you buy from a dealer, and they do all the legwork / paperwork for you.

What about if you buy a car from a private seller?

I recently bought a car privately in the UK, and imported it to CH myself, thought this might be a helpful story.

I bought a 2005 Jaguar XJR, in London, via eBay. Yes it's a RHD but I have my reasons for needing RHD, i won't go into it now.

Before I left I called my insurer & told them what I was doing, gave them the details of the car (make, model, VIN, UK Reg) and they opened a temporary coverage for me. I got an email from them confirming the coverage for the drive from England to Switzerland, and "a few weeks" in Switzerland while waiting to get it registered here.

So, flew to London, paid the guy, got the car. The only documents I got from him were the V5 registration paper, the last MOT cert, and a type-written invoice with the sellers name/address, my name/address, the VIN and description of the car & the purchase price. There is a section on the V5 which needs to be posted in stating "the car has been permanently exported" but funny enough you don't have to give any details of the new owner. I hope no speeding tickets end up with the previous owner.

I asked the seller to order me the Certificate of Conformance (which includes the Certificate of Origin) directly from Jaguar Land Rover in Coventry before I flew over. BTW it was 100 and in the end took 2 weeks to arrive. The seller posted it over to me when he got it. So I didn't have any cert for the importation, turns out I didn't need it anyhow.

Right drove to dover in the evening, got on the ferry, i'd decided against driving through France because of the tolls and speed limit, it's only 100km more via Germany, so I went Calais, Dunkirk, Brussels, Aachen and then south through to Karlsruhe, Stuttgart, arriving at the Thayngen-Bietingen border at 8am Saturday morning. Don't do this! Make sure you come in during the week, i'll explain why.

Without any export or import documents, you need to find a Neutral Customs Agent to do this for you. At Thayngen-Bietingen there are literally dozens on both sides of the border. You can walk in, give them the invoice and you particulars, and they will prepare the papers for you.

Except on a Saturday morning, a number of these firms were closed, the rest short-staffed with people waiting and waiting. Also it turns out not every company is authorised to do this. I eventually found one, staffed by two lovely young ladies...

They made the UK Export Document, and the Swiss Import Document.
CHF 150 and 20 minutes later I had the papers. They had made the Declaration of Origin too. "Jaguar is from England right?" "Yes my dear"

Take the export papers to the German side, they stamp it "the car has been exported from UK", take the import & export papers to the Swiss "the car has been imported to Switzerland", and they produce the vehicle identification document which has a "Stamm Number on it" this is a very important document. They then send everything via Pneumatic Tube over to the Transit Exit building. Walk over there, pay the VAT and Customs fees (cost me CHF 1600!), get your receipt and all the papers back.

Go back to the car, drive to the exit, show the papers, go home for a nap.

Couple of weeks later, I find the time to modify the headlights to point right instead of left. If you need more info on this send me a mail.

The Certificate of Conformance arrives in the post, so I go down to the Strassenverkehrsampt, give them the V5, the Certificate of Conformance, and the paper with the "Stamm Number", they give me some number plates, I call up the insurer to tell them the plate number, they electronically send the confirmation of insurance to the SVA, and I'm issued a temporary registration certificate, subject to passing the MFK inspection.

The Certificate of Conformance I got from Jaguar has to stay with the registration paper, in the car, it's clearly stated so on the document.

I have to hand back the UK plates to the SVA. Mount the Swiss plates on the car.

So the car is immediately legal to drive. I asked my mechanic about this, he seems to think that because it's an EU vehicle, less than 10 years old, it's registered immediately. If you have an older vehicle or import from outside the EU, it has to go for the MFK inspection before they issue you the plates & rego paper.

A week later I got an letter with the appointment for the MFK. June 27th at exactly 13:24, no kidding. The car needs to have been CH emissions tested and the CH booklet stamped before the test. So I need a booklet. My mechanic gets on to Emil Frey, the Swiss importer for Jaguar, and orders a new booklet for the Emissions. It turns up in the post (still haven't got the bill, no idea what it cost), they make the emissions test in the morning of the 27th, and fill out / stamp the booklet.

But there's another problem, the left rear door has locked itself shut & won't open, a replacement lock is on the way but won't arrive in time to replace it before the inspection...so my mechanic takes the car to the MFK for me, and somehow, it passes with flying colours. They bring it back, replace the lock, and we're done.

A new (permanent) registration paper is on the way in the post.

And that's it, we're done. Not that complicated in the end. Hope this helps someone...

A few things I've learned in the meantime;

- Order the Certificate of Conformance from the manufacturer in the country you're buying the car from. I've heard BMW Switzerland is no longer providing these certs for new car imports? Just what I heard.

- If you import a RHD car from England DO NOT BUY NEW HEADLIGHTS please send me an email first I will help you.

Execllent post..just one question did you pay the 1600 in cash or could you use credit/debit card..?

JakubB 19.02.2014 16:17

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Hi :) I have a short question: If I want to use my RHD car to only bring my staff from Ireland and then sell it and buy Swiss car - how long can I use it in CH without registering and what are the procedures on the border?

Thanks for help!

dodgyken 19.02.2014 16:21

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JakubB (Post 2093337)
Hi :) I have a short question: If I want to use my RHD car to only bring my staff from Ireland and then sell it and buy Swiss car - how long can I use it in CH without registering and what are the procedures on the border?

Thanks for help!

You don't have to do anything. Bring the car over and drive it around for as long as you like. Don't worry about whether your insurance is valid nor having to get a roadworthyness test.

The added bonus is that because you aren't on Swiss plates you won't get any speeding tickets!!

Trust me on this
:rolleyes::cool::rolleyes:

symphara 19.02.2014 16:24

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JakubB (Post 2093337)
Hi :) I have a short question: If I want to use my RHD car to only bring my staff from Ireland and then sell it and buy Swiss car - how long can I use it in CH without registering and what are the procedures on the border?

Thanks for help!

As far as I know you can use it for up to 1 year with your foreign plates, however it must be road legal in the country of origin (i.e. up to date NCT, road tax, insurance).

When I crossed the border there was no "procedure". Remember to buy the Swiss motorway sticker and place it correctly on your windscreen.

I'm not sure about your question regarding selling the car, but I don't think you can sell it in Switzerland without importing and registering it here.

TidakApa 19.02.2014 16:34

Re: How to PRIVATELY import a car EU to CH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JakubB (Post 2093337)
Hi :) I have a short question: If I want to use my RHD car to only bring my staff from Ireland and then sell it and buy Swiss car - how long can I use it in CH without registering and what are the procedures on the border?

Thanks for help!

In all honesty, I'd like you to ask yourself a very serious question before you do this:

"What do you think the market for a second hand RHD car will be in Switzerland?"

For what my opinion is worth, I'd sell the car in Ireland. Use the money to transport your goods here. Ride the AMAZING Public transport system for a while and save a shit load of money.

keep your eye on this www.autoscout24.ch to find a car you do like when you get here.


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