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Old 01.09.2012, 19:36
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Re: Police were at my door over a Traffic Ticket?

It's one of those "shit happens" stories that happen if you are in a foreign country and not familiar with the customs/language there.

I remember we once traveled to Las Vegas with a rental car and just stopped on the highway side stripe for some reasons.

Next I remember was a police car with emergency lights behind us and there was this funny thing we heard via loudspeaker: "Leave the car and hands up".

No problem in the end.
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Re: Police were at my door over a Traffic Ticket?

Everytime someone on this forum complains about being tied into a contract he/she did not understand (happens at least twice per week IIRC) there are plenty of posts telling them - rightfully - never ever to sign something they don't understand.
I would have thought that this advise applies even more to the police asking you to sign something which you do not understand.
Let's assume you are involved in a traffic accident while being on vacation abroad: Would any of you sign a police protocol in a language you do not understand ? I hope not.
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It's one of those "shit happens" stories that happen if you are in a foreign country and not familiar with the customs/language there.

I remember we once traveled to Las Vegas with a rental car and just stopped on the highway side stripe for some reasons.

Next I remember was a police car with emergency lights behind us and there was this funny thing we heard via loudspeaker: "Leave the car and hands up".

No problem in the end.
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I have only been here for 10 months and I'm ready to pack my bags and get the hell out of this rigid country!
did you expect them to leave a calling card and say " tell us your schedule and we will come when it is convenient for you.. is 3 months enough notice? "

Facts are your had a speeding notification, you didnt check the timing on the ticket well enough, and just assumed who was driving rather than checking.

They checked hence the visit.

Oh this might help with your wish to leave.... www.swiss.com
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i think you are assuming something here and i can see by your incessant groaning that you just don't get what some people are saying.

it's not mobbing when some people have the same opinions on things and your idea of lack of understanding is quite far off on what or why people are saying. seems a bit ridiculous all this groaning especially when you are saying pretty much the same thing yourself...
Not really

I read the OP, got three pages in, made my first comment, read the rest and just saw the usual patronising mobbing and lack of understanding of a perfectly normal reaction to a definitive over the top approach.

I get that people feel more inclusive when they all repeat the same opinion telling someone how they are basically an idiot and shouldn't be moaning about this but a lot of the comments were way over the top.

Groans justified. You should know me well enough on the forum to know I don't join the bandwagon like the rest of the usual suspects.
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Re: Police were at my door over a Traffic Ticket?

We had 10 tickets in our first 2.5 years - only one was for 120chf (i think doing 42 in a 30 zone)the rest were all 40chf - for maybe 1 or 2 over the 5km allowed. car registered in hubbies name and I drive the car 75% of the time, we just paid the bills and only sent off the 11th one coz thought maybe hubby could have been ending up with having to retake driving test or something like that. Not had a ticket now for 18 months..........
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Old 01.09.2012, 20:21
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Seems you really do love your wee conspiracy theories, eh?

However, in the real world, I think the mass reaction to the OP was a result of it being almost comically exaggerated and blown out of proportion. A visit from the police at 6pm to clear up a misunderstanding is no big deal, and imo it's clear the OP reacted in a bad way and escalated the situation from the start, because of how uneasy it made her feel, and how she considered it a violation of privacy etc.

I have had police come to my door before to return 30chf to me that i'd forgotten to pick up from the station last time I lost my wallet; they were stern at the start, but a few smiles and polite words loosened them up, and I felt a little guilty they had to come to me that I even offered to donate it to the police fund or charity but apparently they weren't allowed to do that. Either way I appreciated them taking the time to come and give it to me, and made that clear.

The incident in the OP could have been handled completely differently and calmly without any fuss, but she chose to react in a disproportionate, knee-jerk way and is now convinced Switzerland is evil and not the place for her, all because of... that. Pretty silly really.
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Great story but you won't change my opinion.
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Old 01.09.2012, 20:24
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Re: Police were at my door over a Traffic Ticket?

Did the OP pay the ticket just in time or did they ignore it?

And did this officer show up before the deadline to pay it was over?
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Haha

Great story but you won't change my opinion.
Indeed, true conspiracy theorists don't let inconsequential little things such as facts in their way.

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Re: Police were at my door over a Traffic Ticket?

Can I just say, this has been one of the greatest "first threads" i've seen in a while. 9 pages in less than a day. Hat's off to the OP and the rest of you too!
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Old 01.09.2012, 20:52
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Indeed, true conspiracy theorists don't let inconsequential little things such as facts in their way.

Imagine if you were funny, that would be hilarious.

There is no conspiracy to talk of here, so not sure why you are trying to divert the topic.

Attention deficit disorder perhaps?
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Not really

I read the OP, got three pages in, made my first comment, read the rest and just saw the usual patronising mobbing and lack of understanding of a perfectly normal reaction to a definitive over the top approach.

I get that people feel more inclusive when they all repeat the same opinion telling someone how they are basically an idiot and shouldn't be moaning about this but a lot of the comments were way over the top.

Groans justified. You should know me well enough on the forum to know I don't join the bandwagon like the rest of the usual suspects.
honestly, i don't know you at all on the forum and i have no idea what you do as i just post what i think and be done with it-of course if you like to be known, then certainly groaning a ton of posts for no reason is a good way to get known .

i don't really agree that everyone is saying the same thing or ganging up on this op but whatever,i guess your just a groaner...
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Old 01.09.2012, 21:51
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Re: Police were at my door over a Traffic Ticket?

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Re: Police were at my door over a Traffic Ticket?

Look at the bright side, at least the police don't have much to do here if they are knocking on doors over a speeding ticket. Having lived in 3 major US cities previous to this, I wish the police there had nothing more to do than follow up door-to-door on speeding tickets.
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Old 02.09.2012, 01:08
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Groans justified. You should know me well enough on the forum to know I don't join the bandwagon like the rest of the usual suspects.
Of course, you're different. You're not a sheeple, you are one of the rare few on the forum who thinks independently and for themselves... not like all the other idiots. Right?
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Re: Police were at my door over a Traffic Ticket?

I just cant believe what I am reading. So many offering opinions and not knowing what the _ _ _ _ they are talking about and all assuming that this cop what just doing his job and helping out. I don't know what country you are living in but in the Switzerland I am living in the cops are not in the business of doing anybody a favor or popping by so you dont have to come to the station!! Get real! The cops here do not mess around, and do not have the attitude of how can I make your life easier...
These people obviously have never dealt with the cops as much as I have .
Yes, it is absurd and NO its not about being thankful that they have nothing better to do as there is such a low crime rate here (there is a lot of crime here however it has to be a law before it becomes a crime ( for example a man hits a boy in the face in US it is considered a assault here the boy deserved it...a man beats his wife up, someone reports it to police, its a family matter in US it is battery and so on..2) the police have to report it to be a crime, and 3) the people have to have faith in the police to report it and as you have experienced some people do not have patience with people who can not communicate in there language.
To the OP. One thing you need to learn ASAP is every rule broken is taken very seriously. I understand how you must have felt when a cop rings your bell at 6.pm and communicates with an attitude to you about this incorrect filled out form. This is how they communicate here. (As and American you think" I am dreaming" here "can I give you something to drink")
I have read a lot of other posts from people who are surprised at your reaction.....forgive them as they no not otherwise. They do not understand what it is to have the freedom and rights we have as a US citizens in America. They accept this type of attitude as the way things are done and that is fine. Get use to it as it is all over the place and it works here as no one speak up....right or wrong. Everyone just goes with the flow because that is how it is done here.
Second thing is that women are not at the same level as men here and you will be treated accordingly.
And the third lesson you have already learned is to lawyer up. Switzerland's law is open to interpretation and the interpretation comes from whoever is sitting in that seat for the day. Nothing is clear cut and the only way you are going to ensure that they follow the law is through a lawyer. Well done.

Switzerland is a great country with great people but I will tell you what, everyday you live here, the more and more proud you will be to be an American!!!

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I just cant believe what I am reading. So many offering opinions and not knowing what the _ _ _ _ they are talking about and all assuming that this cop what just doing his job and helping out. I don't know what country you are living in but in the Switzerland I am living in the cops are not in the business of doing anybody a favor or popping by so you dont have to come to the station!! Get real! The cops here do not mess around, and do not have the attitude of how can I make your life easier...
These people obviously have never dealt with the cops as much as I have .
Yes, it is absurd and NO its not about being thankful that they have nothing better to do as there is such a low crime rate here (there is a lot of crime here however it has to be a law before it becomes a crime ( for example a man hits a boy in the face in US it is considered a assault here the boy deserved it...a man beats his wife up, someone reports it to police, its a family matter in US it is battery and so on..2) the police have to report it to be a crime, and 3) the people have to have faith in the police to report it and as you have experienced some people do not have patience with people who can not communicate in there language.
To the OP. One thing you need to learn ASAP is every rule broken is taken very seriously. I understand how you must have felt when a cop rings your bell at 6.pm and communicates with an attitude to you about this incorrect filled out form. This is how they communicate here. (As and American you think" I am dreaming" here "can I give you something to drink")
I have read a lot of other posts from people who are surprised at your reaction.....forgive them as they no not otherwise. They do not understand what it is to have the freedom and rights we have as a US citizens in America. They accept this type of attitude as the way things are done and that is fine. Get use to it as it is all over the place and it works here as no one speak up....right or wrong. Everyone just goes with the flow because that is how it is done here.
Second thing is that women are not at the same level as men here and you will be treated accordingly.
And the third lesson you have already learned is to lawyer up. Switzerland's law is open to interpretation and the interpretation comes from whoever is sitting in that seat for the day. Nothing is clear cut and the only way you are going to ensure that they follow the law is through a lawyer. Well done.

Switzerland is a great country with great people but I will tell you what, everyday you live here, the more and more proud you will be to be an American!!!
Of all the comments i read here ,this is the dummest, by far
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Of course, you're different. You're not a sheeple, you are one of the rare few on the forum who thinks independently and for themselves... not like all the other idiots. Right?
Whether you choose not to recognise you get kicks out of belonging to a faceless community, in the most part, and getting sucked into a newbie bashing over a gripe with poor handling of a situation is fine with me.

You can try your patronising posts with me all you like, I'll still call it how I see it.

P.S. Sheeple refers to a collective, plural, "a sheeple" does not make sense. Did you say something about an idiot?
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Switzerland is a great country with great people but I will tell you what, everyday you live here, the more and more proud you will be to be an American!!!
Really? Maybe you missed the recent news story about how US immigration authorities detained two teenage children of an asset manager based here in Switzerland. The kids were traveling through the United States by themselves to visit extended family, and they were interrogated for six hours about their father's business and whereabouts.
During the six-hour ordeal, the children were not allowed to contact family members who were waiting for them, nor any sort of attorney or advisor.
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