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buying second hand car-story

I want to buy an old BMW with not too many kms on it.
So after looking at autoscout- I found this 10 year old BMW - went to Garage and negotiated the price down by 10%, got the winter tyres included ( were not there with the car originally). The price included MFK , 1 year garantie on engine and gears.

Then I thought it will be nice to get a check up done by TCS before I buy it just to detect any other problem that will not be caught in MFK .
Got an appointment with TCS for the inspection but the Garage refused.
( I told them I will pay for the inspection before signing the contract but will only buy if the results are good).

do you smell something fishy or am I being too picky for an old cheap car?
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Re: buying second hand car-story

A garage gave you a discount + free winter tires? That sounds already very fishy to me.
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I want to buy an old BMW with not too many kms on it.
So after looking at autoscout- I found this 10 year old BMW - went to Garage and negotiated the price down by 10%, got the winter tyres included ( were not there with the car originally). The price included MFK , 1 year garantie on engine and gears.

Then I thought it will be nice to get a check up done by TCS before I buy it just to detect any other problem that will not be caught in MFK .
Got an appointment with TCS for the inspection but the Garage refused.
( I told them I will pay for the inspection before signing the contract but will only buy if the results are good).

do you smell something fishy or am I being too picky for an old cheap car?
Its a matter of etiquette, I think you should have arranged the inspection prior to knocking down the price and getting winter tyres thrown in. In their minds they probably think the deal is good enough as it is, 'take it or leave it'.
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Re: buying second hand car-story

or they know the car is crap and has many things wrong with it that the TCS inspection will pick up.


The MFK is a basic test and doesnt discover lots of obvious faults


walk away!
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Re: buying second hand car-story

The MFK is pretty thorough, especially on a 10 year old car. Sure it won't pick up if the aire con doesn't work properly but it will lewt you know the important bits, tyres, breaks, suspension are good it will also let you know via the antri pčollution control whether the engine has anything too much wrong with it.
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Re: buying second hand car-story

not in my experience.

my car from 1999 needed:

a new steering rack as the pinion was worn, resulting in weaving when on the highway and knocking when changing direction.
rack mounting rubbers worn so rack moved 3cm each side under load
1 gas strut was leaking
suspension arm rubber mounts badly worn and perished resulting in constant changing camber
rear diff rubbers
1 lower ball joint knocking, the other with a split gaitor
supercharger unit siezed plus a few other items of equal

guess how many were picked up on the MFK - and an MFK used as a training session for apprentices BTW.
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not in my experience.

my car from 1999 needed:

a new steering rack as the pinion was worn, resulting in weaving when on the highway and knocking when changing direction.
rack mounting rubbers worn so rack moved 3cm each side under load
1 gas strut was leaking
suspension arm rubber mounts badly worn and perished resulting in constant changing camber
rear diff rubbers
1 lower ball joint knocking, the other with a split gaitor
supercharger unit siezed plus a few other items of equal

guess how many were picked up on the MFK - and an MFK used as a training session for apprentices BTW.
Well you were exceptionally lucky to get all this through an MFK with none of it being picked up
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Re: buying second hand car-story

its all basic things that are easily spotted though.
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The MFK is pretty thorough, especially on a 10 year old car. Sure it won't pick up if the aire con doesn't work properly but it will lewt you know the important bits, tyres, breaks, suspension are good it will also let you know via the antri pčollution control whether the engine has anything too much wrong with it.
Nonsense the MFK is a piece of piss to get through, my 1995 BMW with 329k passed yesterday without issue , several things are borderline but not noticed.
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not in my experience.

my car from 1999 needed:

a new steering rack as the pinion was worn, resulting in weaving when on the highway and knocking when changing direction.
rack mounting rubbers worn so rack moved 3cm each side under load
1 gas strut was leaking
suspension arm rubber mounts badly worn and perished resulting in constant changing camber
rear diff rubbers
1 lower ball joint knocking, the other with a split gaitor
supercharger unit siezed plus a few other items of equal

guess how many were picked up on the MFK - and an MFK used as a training session for apprentices BTW.
I guess you own a French car!
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I guess you own a French car!
French? how dare you!


no its a lexus and around or beyond the age/mileage of the known issues.

All easily fixed with a bit of DIY.
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