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To import or not to import French car into Switzerland

Hello everyone,

I just moved to Fribourg with my 12 year old Ford Focus. I know I have a year to make it legal here, but since the car cost me 3000 euros when I bought it last year, I would like to figure out if it would be worth going through the hassle of importing or not. Does anyone know how much would it cost to import? For one thing I know I might need to get tires and fix a misaligned front light. I've had the car for more than 6 months.

Does anyone have any experience doing this that could advice?

If the cost is to high once you take into account fees, cleaning, garage costs, etc... I would rather just sell it to a garage in France (although I'm still not sure it fhat is possible to do there).

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Which bit of N O you don't understand ?

Sorry to be brutal, but this is going to cost far more than the car is worth, after which you got a French car re-registered in Switzerland = you pay ME to take it away.
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Sorry to be brutal, but this is going to cost far more than the car is worth, after which you got a French car re-registered in Switzerland = you pay ME to take it away.
If the car is capable of passing a French Control Technique, only main difference is cleaning the engine.

I would drive the car legally on French plates for 11 months, book an MFK & see what they say. If it's a problem sell it in France, if it's easy keep it what so complicated about that.

Just got a 1995 BMW with 328,000km through a test in ZH last week, no big deal.

Permission to use the car costs under 50chf, MFK 65 CHF in ZH, plates & paperwork probably 100CHF.
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Re: To import or not to import French car into Switzerland

If you intend to continue owning the Focus then go ahead, but don't expect to sell it here and make a profit.
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Re: To import or not to import French car into Switzerland

Thanks for your replies. If it is not too much problem or expense to import it then I'll keep it. I don't plan to sell it right away since I read you have to keep it for a year after it gets registered in Switzerland. Otherwise if I sell it, then I would have to pay fees and taxes and who knows what else.
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Which bit of N O you don't understand ?

Sorry to be brutal, but this is going to cost far more than the car is worth, after which you got a French car re-registered in Switzerland = you pay ME to take it away.
It's not just what the car costs and what it's worth, it's also what it would cost to get a car if you didn't import it.

Based on my recent experience having spent under 600CHF to import a car from the UK of which half was new headlights... It will cost less than 300 CHF to import a French car if you have owned it at least 6 months.

It will cost you 170CHF to find out if it's worth doing or not.

Get an import declaration for 12.20A (20 CHF) a certificate of Conformity from the manufacturer (30) and then book an MFK (120CHF), jet wash the engine bay (carefully to avoid electrics/alternator) and see if it passes...

If it doesn't pass the MFK for any expensive reason just drive it for another 11 months on French plates and then sell it in France.

If it does pass get an Abgas test (60-120CHF inc. the logbook from a Swiss main dealer) and then get your Swiss plates.

ooops, nearly forgot, you'll probably also need another 10-15CHF for number plate holders from Jumbo...
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If it doesn't pass the MFK for any expensive reason just drive it for another 11 months on French plates and then sell it in France.
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Don't do the MFK untill you get close to the end of the first year, are you sure you can drive in CH for 11 months after failing an MFK? I suspect you have 3 weeks to sort it out........
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Don't do the MFK untill you get close to the end of the first year, are you sure you can drive in CH for 11 months after failing an MFK? I suspect you have 3 weeks to sort it out........
If it is still licensed and insured and legal in France then yes.

If you handed in the French plates and took temporary Swiss plates then no.

But I guess it might be worth double checking that... The MFK office will tell you if you ask them before booking the test.
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Re: To import or not to import French car into Switzerland

I think I will take it to a garage first to see what I need to repair. I know there are a few minor things I have to fix. The car only has 115000 km... not bad for 12 years. But anyway, even if I wanted to sell it in France, I'm not sure how I would do that considering I'm in Fribourg and the border is far away.
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I think I will take it to a garage first to see what I need to repair. I know there are a few minor things I have to fix. The car only has 115000 km... not bad for 12 years. But anyway, even if I wanted to sell it in France, I'm not sure how I would do that considering I'm in Fribourg and the border is far away.
Taking it to the garage is a waste of money, clean the engine & see what they say it will be the cheapest way. Many things are opinion, a garage may want to fix things that may pass the test!
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If it is still licensed and insured and legal in France then yes.

If you handed in the French plates and took temporary Swiss plates then no.

But I guess it might be worth double checking that... The MFK office will tell you if you ask them before booking the test.
Once it's failed a test in CH & not deemed roadworthy there is no way a resident would be allowed to drive it in CH for 11 months! It's probably not legal in France either as other than clean engines there is not a lot in it!

France does not have road tax, so no reason to change over early!
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Re: To import or not to import French car into Switzerland

But how strict are they in CH? I did the test in France when I bought it last year and it passed there. I have the idea that unless the car is falling apart in rust or burning oil or some other serious issue like that, then it should pass. I've seen a few clunkers with swiss plates driving around and they don't seem to have a problem with those.
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But how strict are they in CH? I did the test in France when I bought it last year and it passed there. I have the idea that unless the car is falling apart in rust or burning oil or some other serious issue like that, then it should pass. I've seen a few clunkers with swiss plates driving around and they don't seem to have a problem with those.
they are very strict comparing to france
my personnal advice would be to finish using to try to sell your car in france and get another one here.
You will be losing some of the money but probably less than taking the risk to import it + passing the mfk
First step would be to take it to the gearage and see what you will have to repair on it .
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they are very strict comparing to france
my personnal advice would be to finish using to try to sell your car in france and get another one here.
You will be losing some of the money but probably less than taking the risk to import it + passing the mfk
First step would be to take it to the gearage and see what you will have to repair on it .
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What risk are you talking about? An MFK costs 65 CHF in ZH, if the car fails & is expensive to repair just sell it in France.

Taking it to a garage is a waste of time & will cost more than 65 CHF, take it for the MFK, but only after using the car for 11 months.

A garage will give an opinion which is their opinion & not fact. Some MFK testers will say something needs replacing others will let it go, CLEAN the car & then it will probably pass.......
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Once it's failed a test in CH & not deemed roadworthy there is no way a resident would be allowed to drive it in CH for 11 months!
Is that opinion or do you know it for a fact?
Have you got a link to the relevant official documentation?
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What risk are you talking about? An MFK costs 65 CHF in ZH, if the car fails & is expensive to repair just sell it in France.

Taking it to a garage is a waste of time & will cost more than 65 CHF, take it for the MFK, but only after using the car for 11 months.

A garage will give an opinion which is their opinion & not fact. Some MFK testers will say something needs replacing others will let it go, CLEAN the car & then it will probably pass.......
if you want to pass the mfk then go to a garage is needed under my point of view of course

the most important question would be is your car in good condition according to french or swiss standards.
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if you want to pass the mfk then go to a garage is needed under my point of view of course

the most important question would be is your car in good condition according to french or swiss standards.
I've heard a few people say the Swiss test is not that strict as long as you have the right paperwork and wash it.

I had a garage quote me 450CHF to clean the engine and do an inspection before I take it to the MFK, no doubt they would have also found a few things that need doing...

I spent 5€ at the car wash yesterday...

Will find out in a couple of days if that's good enough when it goes for the test.

If it fails on anything significant I'll swap the headlights back and sell it in an auction in the UK.
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It failed...

No comment on the cleaning so that must have been fine and it looked as clean as the other engines going through.

Failed on a broken suspension spring, a broken towing electrics socket and headlight alignment (which the garage obviously didn't set correctly when they fitted my new headlights last week!!! luckily that wasn't the only fail or they would have been getting a very pissed off phone call...)

I knew about the spring but it's got through 2 UK MOT's with it, so I guess the Swiss test is more thorough, as well as quicker.

I've found a new German garage today who will swap the spring (a friend at work recommended them and they are right on the border less than 1km from where I work, so much more convenient).

Is quite impressive to watch the MFK tests as they put about 20 cars through 5 lanes in 10-15 minutes. I arrived early, but got straight in, 20 mins before my scheduled appointment and didn't have to wait.
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Is that opinion or do you know it for a fact?
Have you got a link to the relevant official documentation?
Why not just look on the back of your MFK fail paperwork, you have 14 working days to fix the car, section of the law is quoted!
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