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Help with dodgy seller

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I am in the process of buying a car. I had a test drive, the car looks nice, price is good for the swiss market. The seller pays a registered swiss car dealer to sell it for him. ( or they are friends)
The doggy part is that the car was bought by the current owner only two weeks ago. I saw that after signing the contract where I state I will buy the car, but I guess I can still cancel it.i will specifically ask them, but they've already told me crap saying that he was selling the car because of a newborn.

What is your feeling? Is there a way to check how many owners the car had and if it has recently been through an accident ?

It might be just that the guy got a good price on it and he's trying to make a quick profit.Or, it might be something worse ...

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Re: Help with doggy seller

You have signed a contract to buy the car... and now the only way
out of the legally binding agreement, is to prove the contract did
not describe the car correctly.

You can join the TCS, & they will be able to advise you better, but as
you have signed, I do not think you can escape your liabilities.
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Re: Help with doggy seller

What kind of dog is it?
Oh wait....
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Sorry about the doggy ....
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You are not the first EF member to rush ahead and sign up,

search for "buying car"
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Re: Help with dodgy seller

Actually, I would like to buy the car, but I do not know how to calm down my fears. There must be a way how to check the history of a car.
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As Sbrinz said, the TCS can help (Touring Club Suisse - equivalent/sort of AA in the UK) they can assess the car and safety for you, and possibly more - but it is too late for this one, I fear. Unless they prove it to be dodgy indeed (as in stolen or been write-off accident, etc) in which case they may help you with cancelling the contract and pursue the seller for fraud.

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Re: Help with dodgy seller

Is the contract with him personally, the garage or the garage as agent? And is it a "reputable" garage? Those might have a bearing on your possible approach.

Also ask why this is happening. And demand some extra clauses in the sales contract. eg unfallfrei statement. If they refuse you should suspicious. You don't necessarily have to insist on the clauses actually getting into the contract, but the process may help he to the bottom of their motives and honesty.

Can you see who the prior owner was somehow? Contact them too.

Finally, if they are shysters I don't really think they are going to try and enforce the contract. Much easier to sell to another mark.
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Re: Help with dodgy seller

If you've signed a buying contract, failing to comply now will result in 20-30% of the buying price as fee from the garage, and they will be very serious about it.

Does the car have warranty? Is it sold as "never has been in a accident"?
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Re: Help with dodgy seller

The contract is with the garage. Actually, there is a one man company buying and selling cars, not a real garage with 100 cars in front of the building.
In the selling price I asked to have included an insurance on the engine and transmission parts, which will be subscribed by the garage with a third party insurer.
I asked about the clause on non-accident and I was told that they would have no problem to include it , but that even the swiss law does not allow garages to sell damaged cars without saying it.
It looks a bit dodgy, but maybe I'm also overreacting .... The car is a very reliable model, the price is good, I got a 1 year insurance on engine and transmission .... I do not see too many things which could go wrong ...
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...., but maybe I'm also overreacting .... The car is a very reliable model, the price is good, I got a 1 year insurance on engine and transmission .... I do not see too many things which could go wrong ...
Well then just buy it, you do seem to be a worrier.

Maybe the previous owner changed his address and it then seemed to be a short ownership? Maybe he bought it and stored it and then registered the ownership... maybe... maybe...
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Re: Help with dodgy seller

a One year warranty on the drive train that is an awesome deal .
I would not worry about it
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Re: Help with dodgy seller

I will probably buy it ... I'll keep you posted if it breaks down on the way home from the garage

Thanks for your replies
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a One year warranty on the drive train that is an awesome deal .
I would not worry about it
Maybe it comes without engine or gearbox, which explains the price, the guarantee. It was just a "loan engine" for the test drive. ;-)
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