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#**141** 24.01.2019, 11:12

	Quote:	bigblue2
	if you really want to be eco friendly and have to have a car the only answer is just about any 2nd hand car, no car is eco friendly, and a brand new car of whatever fuel system , make and model is the worst option possible. anyone who kids themselves a brand new tesla is eco friendly is frankly an idiot. But I'd have one in a heart beat

The issue with second hand cars is of course efficiency, older emission standards etc etc, but I get what you are saying. Buying new cars, whilst vital for the economy, isn't really an eco friendly premise. Until we actually make a concerted effort to drop fossil fuels and go renewable, it is a piss in the ocean.

That said, I would argue it is probably the least bad way to go when buying a new vehicle.

BasP72 · #**142** 24.01.2019, 13:20

My C3 is (brand)new. I chose it over second hand because:
- Cheap (I got the 11090 chf low-spec version). Cheaper than a second hand kitted out high-spec (typical for CH) version.
- Modern fuel efficient engine. Low hp power for using less fuel. NOT a direct injection with all its carbon-on-intake-valves problems and particle emissions filter.
- Lets kit uses less fuel. No airconditioning (no radio either), so no need to run the airco during the winter just to keep it from breaking. Also because of no kit the vehicle weighs about 100kg less than the mid-spec.

#**143** 24.01.2019, 13:22

	Quote:	BasP72
	My C3 is (brand)new. I chose it over second hand because: - Cheap (I got the 11090 chf low-spec version). Cheaper than a second hand kitted out high-spec (typical for CH) version. - Modern fuel efficient engine. Low hp power for using less fuel. NOT a direct injection with all its carbon-on-intake-valves problems and particle emissions filter. - Lets kit uses less fuel. No airconditioning (no radio either), so no need to run the airco during the winter just to keep it from breaking. Also because of no kit the vehicle weighs about 100kg less than the mid-spec.

Thanks for sharing.

robBob · #**144** 03.08.2019, 10:15

Nothing beats a Ford

https://youtu.be/bXFHgoon7lg