Everything here:

http://worldradio.ch/wrs/shows/natio...ng.shtml?34249


http://tooxme.com/

But I wonder how they can do it legally. By signing for a service you practically become a taxi driver, so how about insurance, liability, etc. And what about real taxi drivers who will definitely loose many clients because of this new service ? They will be very angry !


But idea is brilliant ! Sign up !
Rustem

The taxi drivers only have themselves to blame, charge a reasonable fare instead of performing highway robbery and more people would use taxis.

Because of the cost of taxis here I avoid them as much as possible and have not used a single taxi for over 5 years here. I will even walk through the freezing cold in the middle of the night for 30mins to avoid them.

A .ch website in French only....? Not too ambitious I guess.

Why does it surprise you? Seems to be a French Start-Up.

I once called a Tech company in Paris. Receptionist hanged up the phone on me because I was speaking English to her. And that is a TECH Company!

Can you imagine calling a baguette baker?

Amazing initiative! If only I had a smartphone...

Hi guys !

I am product manager at Tooxme.
First, thank you for you support ! All the team appreciate...

Next regarding your questions/comments:
- Tooxme is legal since drivers are paid bellow the swiss fiscal scale of 0.7 centimes / KM. Above this price, drivers would be considered as professionals and would need a special license; below that, it's just like any carpooling site.

- Next, sorry for the site in French; it should've been ready for the launch in english and german... Anyway, that will be live at the end of next week. In the meantime, I'm sure you'll like this : https://vimeo.com/57243342

Again, thanks for your support !
Florian

Hi Florian,

you said

"drivers would be considered as professionals and would need a special license"

Does it mean that I was able to join service with my ordinary driving license only because you service is in BETA mode and I won't be able to be a driver as soon as you go LIVE ?

Rustem

So you obviously only bothered to read the bit you quoted - Try again.





The video says that all drivers are verified - what about passengers? And if drivers are paid regardless of pickups, what's the incentive to actually stop?

And aside from the obvious lack of translation, I really hope that "coming soon" tag on the android app actually means coming soon and not just "we're aware android exists and may release a half-app sometime in the decade".

This looks interesting! But you can't navigate the website, it's only available as an app it seems and I'm without a smartphone atm. I'm wondering how much it would cost to go from st. gallen to milan and back.

Hi Florian, did you get the idea from the German and Swiss websites, these have been active for years. Top marks for your presentation!

Address:
carpooling.com GmbH
Nymphenburger Str. 86
80636 München

https://www.facebook.com/mitfahrgelegenheit

http://www.mitfahrgelegenheit.ch/?gclid=CI3HzYnnirUCFUdZ3godCg8ALg

Offering a place from Geneva to Mainz in Germany for € 30 per person

http://www.mitfahrgelegenheit.ch/lifts/show/fc515883746df2c5369925a60d33be66

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I now read it properly So, it will be a different prices passenger can choose to pay and driver to be paid per kilometer? I thought price is the same for everybody. Thanks.

http://tooxme.com/grille-tarifaire-tooxme-sa/

Hi Florian,

You said: Tooxme is legal since drivers are paid bellow the swiss fiscal scale of 0.7 centimes

iPhone app says: Earn-as-you-drive ? To encourage our most dedicated drivers, Tooxme offers a 1ct per km while driving with the App.

Which one is correct ?

If you update you profile with your language, you may get a bit more grace for not understanding things due to language barrier. If not, some may just assume you're either lazy or not playing with a full deck.


The very helpful link I posted for you very clearly shows that drivers get paid 0.45 chf/km up to a maximum of 3.11 chf /trip while carrying someone. If you're then just driving around alone, you'll see the 0.01 chf/km. As I don't have an iPhone though, I can't download the app and cant confirm a cap on that bit.

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Yes, English is not my mother tongue. Will update my profile asap.

My point: tooxme is paying me 1 ct/km for driving a car (with or without a passenger, does not matter). It is more than 0.7 ct which was mentioned as a barrier for non-professional drivers. I don't really understand how it come together.

Rustem.

0.70 chf is the legal limit to pay to a non professional driver.

Doesn't mean anything to you other than as you'll be receiving less than that, you don't need a special license.

Rustem's confusion is shared by me. The Tooxme product manager wrote this:

0.7 centimes is CHF 0.007 -- not the CHF 0.70 that you refer to. If 0,7 centimes is the correct figure for the "Swiss fiscal scale" cut-off, it is indeed lower than the "1ct per km" that the iPhone app seems to offer.

Hence the disconnect. Which is correct? That Tooxme pays below the "Swiss fiscal scale" cut-off, i.e. less than CHF 0.007/km, which makes it all legit? Or that Tooxme pays CHF 0.01/km, which would apparently require drivers to be specially licensed?

I highly doubt any successful business plan models employees to participate at 0.7 rp. Given that zh taxis charge a staggering rate of 3.80 chf/km, it would be much more logical to figure that the 0.7 centimes is a poor translation as it's an odd word anyway. My best guess, having read the terms and info, is that 0.7 chf, or 70 rp was the intended value limit.

Though sure, to be absolutely certain, we can out the manager in question and demand justification for the odd choice of wording! [Equip pitchfork and torch]

If I understand correctly, the rate of CHF 0.007/km (or maybe CHF 0.01, depending whom you believe) is paid when there are no passengers -- i.e. money for nothing. Not much money, but still for nothing. So I think that low rate is possible.

What is? "Centimes"? That's what they're called, over there in Romandie.

And, I guess that shows how often I venture to that side of the country...

Ok then tooxme, out with it - why can't you count?


As pure speculation -I can't access the app, and the standby rate isn't in the website conditions- I would still suspect that the intended value limit was 0.7 chf as the commissioned rate is 0.43 chf. The licensing issue would likely be null in the standby case as one could argue that the participant isn't being paid to drive, only to be tracked by the app.