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Old 13.10.2015, 09:09
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

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Setting a minimum you can be done for would make more sense to me
They do set a minimum you can be done for. It's 0 km/h over the speed limit, after allowing for the tolerance of the speed-measuring device. That's why it's called a speed limit.
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Old 13.10.2015, 09:14
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They do set a minimum you can be done for. It's 0 km/h over the speed limit, after allowing for the tolerance of the speed-measuring device. That's why it's called a speed limit.
It's 1, not 0.

0 is still legal as it's at the limit, and not over it.

But, otherwise, you have a valid point.

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Old 13.10.2015, 09:15
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They do set a minimum you can be done for. It's 0 km/h over the speed limit, after allowing for the tolerance of the speed-measuring device. That's why it's called a speed limit.
Yeah but speed limits aren't like real laws. Everyone like knows that they are like suggestions and that like you don't like have to stick to them. I like literally crapped myself when I was told I was like speeding.
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They do set a minimum you can be done for. It's 0 km/h over the speed limit, after allowing for the tolerance of the speed-measuring device. That's why it's called a speed limit.
is this speed limit only applicable for locals or also for expats?
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Old 13.10.2015, 09:20
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is this speed limit only applicable for locals or also for expats?
Only applicable for people driving Swiss registered cars. As everyone knows if you are driving a foreign registered car you don't have to apply any of the rules of the road.

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Old 13.10.2015, 09:24
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It's 1, not 0.

0 is still legal as it's at the limit, and not over it.

But, otherwise, you have a valid point.

Tom

Probably more like 0.5, before rounding. But you're right, of course.
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Yeah but speed limits aren't like real laws. Everyone like knows that they are like suggestions and that like you don't like have to stick to them. I like literally crapped myself when I was told I was like speeding.

Actually speed limits are the maximum speed permitted on the road and the catch is, you have to adapt to prevailing conditions. Meaning if your in a 50 limit and driving past a school that is closing and all the pupils are milling around outside and you hit one whilst driving at 50, you have serious problem as your speed wasn't adapted to prevailing conditions.

There is jurisprudence on this, hapend in Frauenfeld about 10-12 years ago.
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I didn't realise the allowance was only 6%, the uk give you an allowance of 10% plus 3km/h
It's not set at 6%, but I assume in this case you're working on 106kph in a 100 limit. It's actually a 5kph allowance regardless of the limit, so in a 50 zone the lowest you'd be done for is 56, a whopping 12% margin, and in a 30 limit it works out at 20% .

Anyway, suck it up, learn to look up national differences in these things (like allowed alcohol levels, which mistake could cost you a lot more) next time you're abroad, and be thankful that they can't also put points on your licence.
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Arse, I just got a letter in today, 1km/h over, ok they have to draw the line somewhere but I think being able to be done for 1km/h is pretty dumb. Setting a minimum you can be done for would make more sense to me, but boo hoo, it's only 40 chuffs, however I heartily resent the 48 charged by Herz on top of the fine.

I didn't realise the allowance was only 6%, the uk give you an allowance of 10% plus 3km/h
I can't believe people drive here without knowing the rules, it's a disgrace really.
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Old 13.10.2015, 11:42
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

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I can't believe people drive here without knowing the rules, it's a disgrace really.
There is only one rule you need to know about speeding...stick to the speed limit.
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Old 13.10.2015, 16:30
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I want to THANK and GROAN your post. Speed itself doesn't kill - inappropriate speed is the problem. And there are too many people who will happily drive around the limit, never get flashed and yet drive dangerously.

This is the rationale against limits much less fines? Groan away
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Old 13.10.2015, 17:26
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This is the rationale against limits much less fines? Groan away
Nearly all Alpine mountain passes have the usual 80 km/h / 90km/h speed limit all the way from bottom to top. Only on the top, and in a handful curves with very bad view is there a lower limit.

If you really "stick to the speed limit" as Mrs. Doolittle sugest you will be Alpine chough feed.
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

Just get 20f speeding fine in Basel... ( 85 km/h in 80 area, motorway before german border)
I didnt know, 20f speeding fine even exist..
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Just get 20f speeding fine in Basel... ( 85 km/h in 80 area, motorway before german border)
I didnt know, 20f speeding fine even exist..
Hubby got one if those in Neuchatel but I can't remember how much over the limit he was.

It was in the 60 limit zone with the permanent radars during the roadworks when they were still building the tunnel and he drove on that bit of road everyday for years without getting a ticket but then got flashed on the way back from holiday. Guess he was still in holiday mode and forgot about it.
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Just get 20f speeding fine in Basel... ( 85 km/h in 80 area, motorway before german border)
I didnt know, 20f speeding fine even exist..
There's a whole thread somewhere on EF that gives all the details on this very subject...

Oh yeah. You're in it now.

The CHF 20 is a special offer just for Autobahn/autoroute/autostrada/autostrada (motorway) speeders. See 303.3.a here (derived from the first post in this thread).
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

This is the serious speeding thread. The not-so-serious-speeding-and-other-minor-traffic-infraction thread is here: Traffic Offences - Q & A Bullet points

Please floor the pedal a bit more and come back once you have your serious speeding case.
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There's a whole thread somewhere on EF that gives all the details on this very subject...

Oh yeah. You're in it now.

The CHF 20 is a special offer just for Autobahn/autoroute/autostrada/autostrada (motorway) speeders. See 303.3.a here (derived from the first post in this thread).
You sure ????

I thought it was a special introductory offer for Newbies
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

20 CHF.....I would gladly pay that fine compared to the massive amount that I am going to be on the hook for. After the 5 km reduction.....I was still 34 km/h over in 30. Looks like the trip back home is going to have to be postponed along with any vacation plans. Granted...I will get a nice vacation from driving for 3+ months.
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

Can somebody tell this whether this camera measures speed?
https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.74941...2!8i6656?hl=en

I missed the 40 limit in the beginning of the tunnel, I rode about 60-70 by the end of the tunnel and was braking. It happened last week. Since I have a French license plate, I know it will take more time to get the ticket.

Is there any way go to the swiss police in geneva and handle this case? Can I check somewhere by a license plate whether I will get a ticket soon?

Another thing, I would like to evade the following things: i) banning me from driving in france ii) banning the car out of switzerland (I need to drive in France and my girlfriend needs the car in switzerland). I think it's my first tciket, I always paid attention to everything, had this mistake, but I suppose the swiss officers will not believe me.
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Can somebody tell this whether this camera measures speed?
https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.74941...2!8i6656?hl=en

I missed the 40 limit in the beginning of the tunnel, I rode about 60-70 by the end of the tunnel and was braking. It happened last week. Since I have a French license plate, I know it will take more time to get the ticket.

Is there any way go to the swiss police in geneva and handle this case? Can I check somewhere by a license plate whether I will get a ticket soon?

Another thing, I would like to evade the following things: i) banning me from driving in france ii) banning the car out of switzerland (I need to drive in France and my girlfriend needs the car in switzerland). I think it's my first tciket, I always paid attention to everything, had this mistake, but I suppose the swiss officers will not believe me.
Doesn't look like a speed camera to me. If you didn't see a flash then you should be ok.
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