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Old 08.03.2016, 16:42
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Greetings all...

I have a simple request.

Does anyone know of a good (if there is such a thing - reasonably priced) Lawyer based in Zurich that speaks good English? Someone who is well versed in all things posted on this thread?

If known, please PM me the details.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks...
All lawyers are well versed in it - and in general you'll find cheaper ones further out - IE villages instead of towns/cities.

Unless you have really really really strong evidence that you did not commit serious speeding offence - pay up. Fight it gets really expensive really quickly.
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All lawyers are well versed in it - and in general you'll find cheaper ones further out - IE villages instead of towns/cities.

Unless you have really really really strong evidence that you did not commit serious speeding offence - pay up. Fight it gets really expensive really quickly.
My case is somewhat convoluted. Not going in to it here, just looking to see if someone can recommend a good Lawyer rather than recommend what I should do...

Again - thanks in advance...
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Old 08.03.2016, 18:21
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My case is somewhat convoluted. Not going in to it here, just looking to see if someone can recommend a good Lawyer rather than recommend what I should do...

Again - thanks in advance...
Many people belive their case is very special and unique. But in the end they are mostly very simple and not out of the ordinary (Did X, got cought). Considering I did not read anything in the news about a very special and unordinary speeding or traffic case (within the last two years), yours is most likely also nothing special at all.

Expect: You are one of the guys which pushed the other guy out of the car in Gubrist tunnel. But very unlikely you are allowed to use the Internet then.
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Many people belive their case is very special and unique. But in the end they are mostly very simple and not out of the ordinary (Did X, got cought). Considering I did not read anything in the news about a very special and unordinary speeding or traffic case (within the last two years), yours is most likely also nothing special at all.

Expect: You are one of the guys which pushed the other guy out of the car in Gubrist tunnel. But very unlikely you are allowed to use the Internet then.

Pushed from a car in a tunnel... Ouch that sounds painful.

No, I'm not special (although my mum always says otherwise) / neither as you quite rightly point out is my case - I'm just looking for some professional advice -sigh- and I was hoping asking a simple question on here might result in some simple yet beneficial feedback (not least if you're going to be a pain in the a$$ have the decency to use a spell check).
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Old 08.03.2016, 19:38
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are you the same slickhillsy who might have gotten himself into the newspaper many years ago and maybe once had a red Ferrari? I'm hoping so because two of you would be too much
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are you the same slickhillsy who might have gotten himself into the newspaper many years ago and maybe once had a red Ferrari? I'm hoping so because two of you would be too much
Lol bingo!
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

Was clocked doing 124 km in a 80 km zone. Sunday morning, beautiful weather, nice straight country road, no traffic. Cops in hiding with radar gun.

Subtract 4 from 124 km and I was dong 120 km in a 80 zone, so 40 km over.

Cops took my license on the spot, and I heard today that I get a 4 months suspension. Fine will come later. Expecting anywhere from CHF 10K to CHF 20K.
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Old 26.04.2016, 13:36
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Was clocked doing 124 km in a 80 km zone. Sunday morning, beautiful weather, nice straight country road, no traffic. Cops in hiding with radar gun.

Subtract 4 from 124 km and I was dong 120 km in a 80 zone, so 40 km over.

Cops took my license on the spot, and I heard today that I get a 4 months suspension. Fine will come later. Expecting anywhere from CHF 10K to CHF 20K.
Kudos for the honesty!!!

Bet you're wishing you were back in the MX5 now

(Now go back and re-write your post including a suitable lame excuse for why you were going that fast, a story of how strict the Swiss police and how much more lenient they are in <INSERT COUNTRY OF CHOICE> and finally, and most importantly, request details of a lawyer who would get you off).
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Old 26.04.2016, 13:41
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(Now go back and re-write your post including a suitable lame excuse for why you were going that fast, a story of how strict the Swiss police and how much more lenient they are in <INSERT COUNTRY OF CHOICE> and finally, and most importantly, request details of a lawyer who would get you off).
Nah, I will have to byte the bullet on this one. Laps of judgement. Did not realize I was going that fast.

The cops did let me drive home though (followed me) so nice on them.
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Expecting anywhere from CHF 10K to CHF 20K.

I think whether one could work out the salary range from such a post. People post a lot of personal details on the internet these days :-)
What if my non-working wife speeds? Once she missed a temporarily posted 30km/h limit for road works and happily drove 50kmph, but the only radar was the one for speed/safety awareness with a smiling (or sad in this case) face. Do they take the overall household income to assess the fine?
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Old 26.04.2016, 14:28
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Do they take the overall household income to assess the fine?
Yes.

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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

It's a pity that everything evolves around money! Some of us have been in your shoes, yes we were wrong, but how about a speed awareness course and a smaller fine!
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It's a pity that everything evolves around money! Some of us have been in your shoes, yes we were wrong, but how about a speed awareness course and a smaller fine!
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Old 27.04.2016, 01:35
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Laps of judgement.
You were doing laps of a "nice straight country road"? That's your problem, you see. The cops would have noticed you going past them again and again. They probably recorded your speed several times and picked the highest one.
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I think whether one could work out the salary range from such a post. People post a lot of personal details on the internet these days :-)
What if my non-working wife speeds? Once she missed a temporarily posted 30km/h limit for road works and happily drove 50kmph, but the only radar was the one for speed/safety awareness with a smiling (or sad in this case) face. Do they take the overall household income to assess the fine?
So what if someone can work out what someone is paid from such a post! What does it even matter if you can work out what a random person who you dont even know who they are is paid!
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Was clocked doing 124 km in a 80 km zone. Sunday morning, beautiful weather, nice straight country road, no traffic. Cops in hiding with radar gun.

Subtract 4 from 124 km and I was dong 120 km in a 80 zone, so 40 km over.

Cops took my license on the spot, and I heard today that I get a 4 months suspension. Fine will come later. Expecting anywhere from CHF 10K to CHF 20K.
instead of a fine and a 4 month punishment, they should make you drive this for 4 months. that will teach you
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So what if someone can work out what someone is paid from such a post! What does it even matter if you can work out what a random person who you dont even know who they are is paid!


I've already figured out a forum identity of three persons I know in real life. In one case it helped with salary negotiations :-)
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

http://lenews.ch/2016/04/28/speeder-...and-loses-car/

He'll get life for this...
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

Around Geneva the speeding camera enforcement has increased exponentially in the last month. After living here 3.5 years with a total of 1-2 speeding camera tickets, in the last few weeks we received four. And according to the local papers, our experience is typical - often in places where speed limits were changed or are poorly marked etc.

So my question is what is the source of the speed limits in my (Garmin) GPS? Is it private or public?

Here's why. Three of the four tickets we got are for driving on the same stretch of road near our house, where we have been driving for years at about the same speed. Our GPS says the speed limit is 80 km/h, but in fact it is apparently 50 (recently changed? I don't know.) I know because I recently got 3 speeding-camera tickets for driving 68 (on Feb 27), 67 (March 5), and 67 (March 6), for 250 CHF each.

Does the GPS saying the speed limit here is 80 give me any help? I am thinking it might if the GPS pulls its speed limit data from some official source. But that is probably wishful thinking. Thanks.
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Old 28.04.2016, 23:57
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Do they take the overall household income to assess the fine?
Not necessarily. If you are married with a separation of goods they may fine your wife not on the basis of your / household income but with a general tariff.

In my case the police could not determine my income as I had Geneva plates, I was also 40 above and it cost me CHF 700, + 150 in admin fees and a one month ban!
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