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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

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Ok, so I got the fine today CHF 14´600.00

Before someone tries to calculate my household salary, including dividends, bonuses, and other income, and subtracts number of children, misc expenses etc. then I can say my salary is average for Switzerland (Engineer with 20 years experience, not in a managerial role).

Shit.
Can you pay it off by installments over a few years?
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Old 30.04.2016, 19:52
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Can you pay it off by installments over a few years?
Probably over a few months, not years. Official letters in German are difficult to read. I think CHF 11´000.00 is suspended for two years, i.e. if I do not break the law (not sure what law) for two years, then I do not have to pay the "core" fine - so if I am right, then I only have to pay "expenses" of CHF 3´600.00 - but I am not sure. Need to call them on Monday and find out.
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Old 30.04.2016, 19:54
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Probably over a few months, not years. Official letters in German are difficult to read. I think CHF 11´000.00 is suspended for two years, i.e. if I do not break the law (not sure what law) for two years, then I do not have to pay the "core" fine - so if I am right, then I only have to pay "expenses" of CHF 3´600.00 - but I am not sure. Need to call them on Monday and find out.
It will be anything that puts you in front of a judge again, so minor speeding will not matter.
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Ok, so I got the fine today CHF 14´600.00

Before someone tries to calculate my household salary, including dividends, bonuses, and other income, and subtracts number of children, misc expenses etc. then I can say my salary is average for Switzerland (Engineer with 20 years experience, not in a managerial role).

Shit.
Holy f*** you win the gold medal.
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Old 03.05.2016, 17:45
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Ok, so I got the fine today CHF 14´600.00

Before someone tries to calculate my household salary, including dividends, bonuses, and other income, and subtracts number of children, misc expenses etc. then I can say my salary is average for Switzerland (Engineer with 20 years experience, not in a managerial role).

Shit.
That's one hell of a fine. I know it sucks donkey b*lls, but framing it and putting it on the wall will make an excellent conversation piece for decades to come. You might even get featured in one of the papers that like to froth about street racers getting caught!
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Old 03.05.2016, 18:00
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Hello,
I live in London but got a letter for doing 80 in a 50 zone in Geneva with a rental car (5 pages by the way, not even double sided print. No wonder Swiss fines are the most expensive in Europe, they spend so much on killing trees and wasting paper).

Some problems I am facing:
- My french is rudimentary, not enough to understand all the documents they want from me. Can I request them to send this to me in English while at the same time getting a postponement to the deadline day?

- It was 5am in the morning, roads were deserted, there were no speed signs and I was in a hurry to get to the airport, and I didn't commit a murder (although the level of fines make it seem like I had the intention to kill somebody!). Obviously the police won't think those are reasonable excuses, because foreigners should be expected to learn everything about local road regulations before they travel right, so should I just not plead any form of excuse in my reply?

- bank transfer payments from abroad are expensive. Can I wait to pay when I next arrive in Switzerland, or will I get hauled in by the immigration officers at the airport? (this is not a jail sentence I think, from what I've seen online it looks like a fine of 15 days of my net monthly income).

- anything else I need to be aware of (apart from the fact that the Swiss police have an unreasonably draconian view of speeding compared to their European counterparts)?

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This is going to be very expensive! Squeaky bum moment.

Forget trying to lighten the fine or give excuses or delay it will not work in Switzerland. They will just jack up the fine with interest.

This one for the +30km (with deduction?) in a 50 zone is *tada*

50 days salary + costs. Better to plead insanity and spend a few years in an asylum.

51 in a 30 mph zone in the UK is an instant ban plus associated fines based on income, not as severe but it would still hurt in the UK.

Not sure how the Swiss would collect the fine if you ignored it, and never returned to Switzerland. Probably the hire car company would charge your card for a random amount based on Swiss average income or what ever the court decide? - I'll pass this to others who may know more.
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Old 03.05.2016, 18:10
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

I think you should be able to get the accusation in English. But it will not change much. Only two numbers are importent: What max speed was allowed, what you was measured.

The numbers and fines in the very first page of this thread are relevant when you did not endager any one: Like, 5am in the morning, roads were deserted

The time limit for prosecution is at least 3 years. I think in your case it is 5 years. Plus another 3/5 years once a judge has decided. Playing on time will not help much.

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Old 03.05.2016, 18:20
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

I got a 20-franc fine for going over 1 (one) Km after all deductions and subtractions on a highway in Luzern. This to counterbalance William's >14000 fine.
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I got a 20-franc fine for going over 1 (one) Km after all deductions and subtractions on a highway in Luzern. This to counterbalance William's >14000 fine.
I got 40 euros for going 7km/h over 110km/h limit from France How much would I get here?
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Old 03.05.2016, 20:09
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I got 40 euros for going 7km/h over 110km/h limit from France How much would I get here?
I think it would have been slightly cheaper in CH, 40 I think.
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

Perhaps add this calculator that shows how much a Tagessatz is in CHF terms to the first post.
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

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Applying all the parameters of your particular case:

Speed.............Fine

.91- 95 km/h...CHF 120
.96-100 km/h...CHF 180
101-105 km/h..CHF 260
106-110 km/h..CHF 400
111-114 km/h..CHF 600
115-119 km/h..20 days' salary (sort of)
120-124 km/h..30 days' salary
125-129 km/h..50 days' salary
130-134 km/h..60 days' salary
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from 160 km/h..from one year's imprisonment

... where the speeds noted above are the recorded speed less safety margin.

You'll be fine.

Hello again folks. Honestly, thought we'd got away with it. However had a request from credit card company to release a fee to the rental company. Would've accepted straight away but more than 6 months later?

CC company said hold it til we've found out more (rental doesn't have a customer service phone number, only a seemingly unattended email), but how long do these things normally take?

I imagine the rental company would charge us as soon as they've had the request from the Swiss for driver details, which makes me think there's a delay Swiss side. CC company said there's a chance it could've been an error so hold on til it's properly clarified anyway.
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

120 CHF in the end, 98kmh down to 93kmh with allowances. All in all not too bad.
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Old 04.08.2016, 20:41
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

Friend of a friend etc got caught by camera on the ch autobahn... dashboard said 180kmh !

I think he may have some troubles.
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Friend of a friend etc got caught by camera on the ch autobahn... dashboard said 180kmh !

I think he may have some troubles.
Prepare him by telling him not to drop the soap
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

Or give him some liquid soap.....

180 indicated so about 170 real minus let's say 5kmh . 45kmh over ish
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

Swiss or foreign resident?
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

Quick question..

When you get flashed by one of those grey, mobile, red eye style road camera's I assume they photograph you twice i.e. first front but then a rear to be safe.

I drive a motorbike so I am really just clutching at straws that I just saw the front flash.

In a way I deserve nothing less as I even posted on this thread a while back when I saw somebody post a huge fine that I needed to sometimes reign myself especially on the quiet country roads

If anybody has the link again to how much you can expect for scary over in an 80 would be good.

Time to cry and be very scared.
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Depends ... some are front back some are front only.
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