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marton 13.02.2013 19:50

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Originally Posted by SimonHicken (Post 1796595)
As I've understood it, 30kmh zones are not pedestrian priority zones, they are 20kmh zones, here pedestrians can cross anywhere and even walk in the road, there are still designated crossings for pedestrians in 30kmh zones. Although in 30kmh zones vehicules from the right have priority.

About "there are still designated crossings for pedestrians in 30kmh zones."

Mostly, in my experience they take the designated crossings for pedestrians away.
I thought in 30kmh zones drivers & pedestrians have equal rights on the road? No doubt somebody will correct me :)

SimonHicken 13.02.2013 20:08

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Originally Posted by marton (Post 1797416)
About "there are still designated crossings for pedestrians in 30kmh zones."

Mostly, in my experience they take the designated crossings for pedestrians away.
I thought in 30kmh zones drivers & pedestrians have equal rights on the road? No doubt somebody will correct me :)

Looked into it, and we are both partially right:

http://www.tcs.ch/fr/test-securite/s...-rencontre.php

It says that in 20 kmh zones pedestrians have priority but should not inconvenience drivers for no reason

In a 30kmh zone

Priority to the right is applied
Pedestrians can cross where ever they please but do not have priority, there are generally no crossings for them
Drivers should be careful as children could be playing in the street, but they should not inconvenience traffic
After the 30kmh zone, the speed limit of 50kmh is applied again

roostermike 18.02.2013 13:12

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Hi all,

Was just wondering if the new laws are also applied to other areas. I.e. Have any changes been made to fines/license suspension due to going through a traffic light on red. E.g. does this "tagessätze" apply here as well?

I realize these laws are supposed to be deterrents for "racers", but was just wondering if anything else is affected?

Thanks!

Dark Knight 23.02.2013 16:58

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I was speeding 16 over the limit within Zurich city. Got a fine of 290 CHF with an additional 330 CHF of admin fees. I got to know that I will get a separate fine from the Strassenverkehrsamt too!:msncry:

jmf 23.02.2013 17:21

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You might get away with it if you were wearing your mask and cape at the time...

Tuborg 23.02.2013 17:42

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Originally Posted by drmom (Post 1795568)
As I have no income, if I were to get caught speeding, would they use my husband's income to calculate the fine, or is this a loophole for us stay at home moms :)

This being Switzerland, I wouldn't be surprised if they fined the husband for not "controlling" his wife better...

Sbrinz 18.03.2013 21:23

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A 27 year old Macedonian driver from Opfikon was caught racing between Bülach and Kloten. After analysing his handy camera the police discovered he had previously made 9 different races with other cars, at speeds up to 243 Km/h in his VW Golf. He had a history of serious speeding, and the court gave him 3½ years jail, without remission, as punishment for a persistent speeding driver.

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zuerich/story/-Russisches-Roulette-auf-vier-Raedern--27359730

nickatbasel 18.03.2013 22:15

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Known in the UK as doing a Huhne. But you pay the Pryce in the end...

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Originally Posted by 3Wishes (Post 1795643)
If it is a loophole, it's the best loophole ever for speeders. Every man that thinks he's a F1 driver just says, "Hey, wasn't me. Wife was driving. Nope, she doesn't have any income, sorry.":D:D


HIAO 18.03.2013 22:24

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 1795735)
Thanks!

I was particularly interested in the law's exemption for BMW X5 drivers but couldn't find it in the small print. Must be my poor translation skills.

I found it in same section as rules on how to best to obstruct a pedestrian crossing while using a mobile phone, and SUV buyers guide for short folks who don't need to be able see over the steering wheel.


And, my personal fave, the ten steps to splashing a pedestrian. Rule 1..when you see puddle and pedestrian..think accelerator pedal.


I had a bad walk to the train station this morning. :-(

Guest 19.03.2013 09:36

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Originally Posted by HIAO (Post 1829409)
And, my personal fave, the ten steps to splashing a pedestrian. Rule 1..when you see puddle and pedestrian..think accelerator pedal.


IIRC the driver was later prosecuted for this.

TiMow 19.03.2013 09:39

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IIRC the driver was later prosecuted for this.
I hope so ..... as "funny" as the concept is, doing the speed limit plus min. 50%, where kids are present, warrants prosecution.

Guest 19.03.2013 09:45

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Originally Posted by TiMow (Post 1829637)
I hope so ..... as "funny" as the concept is, doing the speed limit plus min. 50%, where kids are present, warrants prosecution.

Googling it seems to suggest that although police considered charging her, no prosecution was brought, possibly because the kids were literally asking to be soaked.

Guest 19.03.2013 11:11

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Originally Posted by aSwissInTheUS (Post 1785702)
AFAIK: This fines only apply to traffic infraction done from January 1 onward.

Just to confirm that in one case at least they haven't tried to apply the new guidelines for offences committed in 2012.

But also worth noting that they do not always, and in my experience on three occasions, apply the daily earnings multiplier to calculate the fine. I've had fines in the high hundreds which, according the 'old' calculation would have been several times that much if they did use that calculation.

So even the new rules which allow for higher fines may not mean that in practice they're applied any more frequently than they were before.

Guest 19.03.2013 20:47

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Originally Posted by Sbrinz (Post 1829358)
A 27 year old Macedonian driver from Opfikon was caught racing between Bülach and Kloten.

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zuerich/...dern--27359730

Good to see consistency in Swiss reporing ... some things never change. Because, after all, it's relevant and important to note that the driver was Macedonian. No real Swiss would ever speed, after all.

mahbod.heidari 15.07.2013 19:57

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55 km instead of 30 km (20 km/h more) .I am dying of stress will I go to jail?:confused::eek:

mahbod.heidari 15.07.2013 20:00

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Originally Posted by mahbod.heidari (Post 1928237)
55 km instead of 30 km (20 km/h more) .I am dying of stress will I go to jail?:confused::eek:

Please help I just received the fine. I debasement de la vitesse auto rise 20 km!!

Slaphead 15.07.2013 20:13

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No, you won't go to jail, as long as you can pay out around 75% of your monthly income for the fine, plus any additional costs.

Somebody may come along with a bit more info, but it's going to hurt anyway.

quark 15.07.2013 20:41

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Originally Posted by Slaphead (Post 1928250)
No, you won't go to jail, as long as you can pay out around 75% of your monthly income for the fine, plus any additional costs.

Somebody may come along with a bit more info, but it's going to hurt anyway.

Fine of 30 days' wages (no doubt plus processing charges), assuming you have no previous serious offences:

http://www.ksbs-caps.ch/docs_aktu/MM...ung%202013.pdf

I believe you will also get an official warning, which means that any future speeding offences will be dealt with more harshly. If you had been 1 kph quicker, you would have automatically lost your license for at least one month.

mahbod.heidari 15.07.2013 21:02

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Originally Posted by mahbod.heidari (Post 1928237)
55 km instead of 30 km (20 km/h more) .I am dying of stress will I go to jail?:confused::eek:

what happens when I am student with no salary? should I go to court personally?

quark 15.07.2013 21:19

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Originally Posted by mahbod.heidari (Post 1928297)
what happens when I am student with no salary? should I go to court personally?

Well, you must be living on money from somewhere. I am no expert, but I guess they will base the fine on how much money you have to live on each year, even if it does not come as a "salary".

I believe you will have to appear before court, yes.

In the past, I believe you had the choice of performing community work or going to prison instead of paying all/part of your fine. I do not know if this is still an option.


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