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Old 23.02.2021, 14:34
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Re: Speeding Fine

A Tuesday is the new Friday moment...and a bit of thread archeology.

Going through our bank records, Mrs nickatbasel has noticed the fine went to the "Trollabteilung Stadt Zürich".

So which EFer works there?

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Old 23.02.2021, 20:09
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And why does Stadt Zurich not put special signs just for me telling me to slow down? Flipping money making exercise if you ask me.
Haven't been in the area where you are talking about, but I do notice that you have to keep your eyes peeled, while ok most of the time, there are areas where it doesn't seem like much thought is given to the placement of the speed limits, and banning Google Maps speed limit doesn't seem to help.

I remember this tunnel from Basel to Zurich, where from 80 you go to 60, but the 60 sign is not announced in advance before the turn, it's simply in the middle of a left turn, when you are already paying attention to staying in your lane at 80. I was lucky my wife noticed it because I would have surely missed it first time I took that route.

@nickatbasel Hope you get a good recommendation and sort this out, it doesn't seem like the end of the world for 10 km over, and 250 is quite a lot.
At the very least I hope you are able to reduce it to the initial fine ,since you've received it this late.

To the rest that fit the description, I don't know what is it with this unconstructive attitude, it's almost as if there's no more empathy left these days and people are happy someone else got burned.

Thankfully, it seems to be a problem on the internet, because day to day people I've met are, thankfully, much more helpful and mature than this.
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Re: Speeding Fine

Take them on nick, literally. Go down the station tooled up, stride in and shout that if anyone wants you to pay a fine you can settle it RIGHT NOW OUTSIDE (shout as loudly as possible).

The will usually* frighten the meek Swiss police who will cancel the offence.






*: usually. Not guaranteed.
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Old 24.02.2021, 13:46
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Re: Speeding Fine

I already manned up and paid the fine - so too late.

FWIW the camera is this one just here:

https://goo.gl/maps/YkcAjiQ862t2XF1u6

I recently did a walk (after the fine had been paid) over the bridge in this picture - the 60kph sign in the distance on the right (the one I would have looked at) actually has been vandalised and converted to "80" - plus you have the 80 sign over the main carriageway - so I'm guessing that how I got caught out.

https://goo.gl/maps/XdmefB47QVMJupWx9

Anyway, water under the bridge and I'll be sticking to my push bike.

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Old 24.02.2021, 15:02
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Take them on nick, literally. Go down the station tooled up, stride in and shout that if anyone wants you to pay a fine you can settle it RIGHT NOW OUTSIDE (shout as loudly as possible)..

If nick sells the tickets to this he'll make a tidy sum....
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Take them on nick, literally. Go down the station tooled up, stride in and shout that if anyone wants you to pay a fine you can settle it RIGHT NOW OUTSIDE (shout as loudly as possible).
Do you think trial by combat exists in Swiss law?
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Do you think trial by combat exists in Swiss law?
Trial of patience. You sit in opposite mountains and hope the other person leaves you alone.
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

Hi Guys....after 7 years generally avoiding the law and flash lights on the road I managed to try my best this week to toss all that good work out the window. It was a rather strange situation so I wanted to get your take / expert opinion.

The facts!
- Speed limit on road 80 KPH (out of town)
- Drove passed (on opposite side of road) 2 police vans pulling cars travelling the other way.
- Approx 800m to a KM further down the road....
- Decided unwisely to overtake 2 slow moving cars unfortunately reaching 111kph (taking into account I know my speedo is a little fast).
- I pulled back in and applied the brakes to resume normal 80 kph.
- After travelling approximately 300 m I spotted laid on the ground under a camouflage blanket 2 police officers with what looked like a long distance speed detector (held in hand).
- As I passed them I fully expected to be pulled over within 1km...but I wasn't.

Now of course spending the rest of the journey trying to second guess the situation....I considered the following.

- Could the police have been capturing speeding motorists from behind reporting them to the police vans further back that I had already seen?
- Did the hand held device take a photo (or not) and I will receive the dreaded letter in mail?
- Could they have ignored me for any reason?

Anyone come across these types of cameras and what I could expect...?

Thanks....I am a little worried how far my poor judgment might take me....
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Old 05.03.2021, 18:03
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

if they'd tried a dirty tactic like that down here they would have been run over.

i guess you wait and see . but it sounds like to me your first thought is correct. they were linked to vans further back for people going the other way.
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Old 05.03.2021, 19:00
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

Let's hope so...glad you are sharing a glimmer of hope! Enjoy the weekend....

I would be interested to know if anyone has seen these telescopic laser speed guns in Switzerland....or perhaps I was going too fast when I went by and didn't correctly see the equipment 🙈
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Old 06.03.2021, 16:55
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

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- Could the police have been capturing speeding motorists from behind reporting them to the police vans further back that I had already seen?
AFAIK that's the typical procedure. Which direction did the two camouflaged look, where did their device point?

Also, if the speed changes by more than 10% during the measurement it's considered invalid.

IIRC there's also the requirement, at least for stationary devices, that the proof (usually foto) must show one car only. Maybe that didn't apply while you were overtaking (assuming they would have measured your speed in the first place), after which you were braking (change more than 10%), and once done you were back to the allowed speed.
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Old 07.03.2021, 10:30
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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

The police were facing towards me. When I passed them the one holding the radar wasn't really pointing it anywhere, I think he was saying something to the other officer who appeared to be looking at a laptop or screen.

I can imagine it would have been tricky to get only one vehicle in shot until I had slowed further away from the car I passed as quite a few cars were also behind me.

The speed change would be interesting. I guess that depends on how long the measurement is taken for as I certainly increased and decreased by more than 10% in the maneuver.
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Old 07.03.2021, 10:38
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I guess it is up to the police then about the warning or one month ban (I am prepared for both). Am I right?
No, it is not up to the police to decide penalties.

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Re: Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

Urs Max: Just to clarify 'where did the device point'. When I said it was towards me I was meaning up the road. So if they were catching cars going the other way it would have been from the rear, in my direction from the front. Regarding the camera, it wasn't held in any particular way when I passed, if you had to bet on it you would say more towards the 'other side of road but to be honest the camera looked loose and that could have been just the angle he rested it while they spoke. Just to toss another one in, there were no cars at that time coming the other way at all (that is why I could see 300-400m to pass).
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Have just been notified in Kanton of doing 25kmph over the limit in 80 zone after tolerance.

Any one advice what the expected fine could be and potential loss of licence as received a letter from the police saying it would be stare prosecutor
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Re: Expected fine from speeding

Just do a search. Lots of discussion on this topic.
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Official govt website says not as serious but Kanton seems to make it out much more serious can't find exact figures for zug
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Just do a search. Lots of discussion on this topic.
What a novel idea! I swear this kind of question is posted weekly...
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Have just been notified in Kanton of doing 25kmph over the limit in 80 zone after tolerance.

Any one advice what the expected fine could be and potential loss of licence as received a letter from the police saying it would be stare prosecutor
A few years in prison, followed by deportation, and permanent loss of license.

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A few years in prison, followed by deportation, and permanent loss of license.

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