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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

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Read the second post on that thread. No change to the law (at least outside of ZH), just some good advice to drivers and pedestrians.
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2 Die Fussgänger haben die Fahrbahn vorsichtig und auf dem kürzesten Weg zu überschreiten, nach Möglichkeit auf einem Fussgängerstreifen. Sie haben den Vortritt auf diesem Streifen, dürfen ihn aber nicht überraschend betreten.

'You have the right of way on this strip, but it may not enter surprising.'
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Old 12.01.2014, 16:19
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2 Die Fussgänger haben die Fahrbahn vorsichtig und auf dem kürzesten Weg zu überschreiten, nach Möglichkeit auf einem Fussgängerstreifen. Sie haben den Vortritt auf diesem Streifen, dürfen ihn aber nicht überraschend betreten.

'You have the right of way on this strip, but it may not enter surprising.'
Right but still no change in the law. The driver must stop since the pedestrian has the right of way. They're just publicizing the pedestrian responsibility more, which is a good thing. Anyway, I am not debating the rule or even the fines. Just pointing out to our new member that his rant is a bit misplaced since he hasn't been here and doesn't know the laws and how they interact. Perhaps I could have stated it better.
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Old 12.01.2014, 16:23
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This guy has a point, Darzales. Did you know that Swiss law requires drivers to STOP the vehicle if there is a pedestrian just waiting to cross the road? Even if they are not yet on the zebra stripes? So there is no "look both ways" for pedestrians here at all. They can walk out in front of you without looking and you the driver are at fault, whether you are speeding or not. The speeding fines are set with safety in mind, but they are not just to do with pedestrians that don't bother to pay attention.
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Right but still no change in the law. The driver must stop since the pedestrian has the right of way. They're just publicizing the pedestrian responsibility more, which is a good thing. Anyway, I am not debating the rule or even the fines. Just pointing out to our new member that his rant is a bit misplaced since he hasn't been here and doesn't know the laws and how they interact. Perhaps I could have stated it better.
You said they can walk out in front of you without looking. Which isn't true.
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Old 12.01.2014, 16:33
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You said they can walk out in front of you without looking. Which isn't true.
Sure it is, happens all the time. Maybe technically they should not, but they absolutely do, especially when staring at a smart phone. Anyway, I am going to bow out now and let you win this one, as I think we are veering way off-topic.
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

technically, a ped can walk onto the road anywhere and whilst they might lose in human/metal terms, the law would side with them. Or their next-of-kin.

obviously, this has sunk in for Polish people. Or not, as statistics show: http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/sta...ent_statistics
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

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Here, in Poland, you often see people driving at 90-100km/h in town (on a 50km/h limit) and I have seen way less accidents than in Czech Republic, where people are driving 45 km/h on a 50 limit. Why? Because people here are much more aware that BEING HURT BY A CAR HURTS! Therefore, they LOOK BEFORE crossing the streets
What an ignorant and arrogant attitude! And he even dares to smile about it. I call this simply stupidity - a stupidity which is dangerous (life-threatening?) to others.

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technically, a ped can walk onto the road anywhere and whilst they might lose in human/metal terms, the law would side with them. Or their next-of-kin.

obviously, this has sunk in for Polish people. Or not, as statistics show: http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/sta...ent_statistics
Yeah. At least in Czech Republic, there are about 45 people (per 1 million ihb.) who survived, where at the same time in Poland they died because of such a$$... like D.
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Old 27.01.2014, 19:34
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

I just had my picture taken ... Was doing about 72 in a 60 zone ... Really worried. What am I going to have to pay?
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Old 27.01.2014, 19:43
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I just had my picture taken ... Was doing about 72 in a 60 zone ... Really worried. What am I going to have to pay?
There's a handy chart posted on the first page of this thread. After they knock off a few kms for camera tolerance you're probably looking at a small(ish) fine, less than 100 CHFs.
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

My guess after having a few myself it will be as little as 40fr.
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Old 27.01.2014, 20:11
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There's a handy chart posted on the first page of this thread. After they knock off a few kms for camera tolerance you're probably looking at a small(ish) fine, less than 100 CHFs.
Yes, I saw the chart but was having difficulty understanding it. I just saw the 400CHF and 600CHF and kinda freaked out.
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Yes, I saw the chart but was having difficulty understanding it. I just saw the 400CHF and 600CHF and kinda freaked out.
If it had been in a 30 zone it would have been 120fr.
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Old 20.02.2014, 12:32
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The fines are ridicolous
Hence the reason Clarkson is not a fan.
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Old 20.02.2014, 12:33
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The fines are ridicolous
I find it appropriate - if you are speeding in a residential area, expect massive fines, if you are speeding on a motorway, you can get away with quite a bit over the limit before the fines start to bite.

Spare a thought for the Danes - a friend who lives there was telling me about a guy who hit the headlines because he had to pay 30% of his salary for speeding which, given he was some software big-shot, ran into millions of Krone.

Ouch!
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

The serious fines can also happen here, up to 1,08 Million Franks, the courts will leave you enough for the rent and a small amount to live on.

There was a serious speeding in Fribourg, 290 Km/h on Autobahn by a rich guy from Sweden, he got off lightly with Euros 782,000
They confiscated his car until he paid the fine.

http://www.bild.de/auto/2010/euro/17...0548.bild.html

http://www.motor-talk.de/blogs/andyr...-t2841980.html

http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/bern/schwedischem-luxus-raser-droht-millionen-busse-id56190.html

I forgot, that was in August 2010, today the car would be seized and crushed.
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Re: Serious Speeding - New law, new fines.

Regarding confiscating the car there is defined law? For example in Innerorts what is the speed?
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Regarding confiscating the car there is defined law? For example in Innerorts what is the speed?
They hold the car as security.

What speed were you caught doing??
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They hold the car as security.

What speed were you caught doing??
check his user name
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I just had my picture taken ... Was doing about 72 in a 60 zone ... Really worried. What am I going to have to pay?
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If it had been in a 30 zone it would have been 120fr.
72 in a 30 zone would have been way more than 120chf.
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72 in a 30 zone would have been way more than 120chf.
If the speed was 12km over the 30 zone, my intended thought process.
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Old 28.02.2014, 10:15
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If the speed was 12km over the 30 zone, my intended thought process.
Ah ok. That wasn't clear from your post.
72 in a 30 zone would be a huge fine, plus suspension of licence and a note on your driving record.
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